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Post by stevegamer on Mar 25, 2010 16:18:03 GMT -4
Kfil, there are a number of Eagles fans who are anti-McNabb due to him being black. McNabb is a good-very good QB who is not elite at this point in his career.
People like to bash the low throws, but he misses where nobody gets it, so he throws few INT's.
He's not as good as Manning, and Manning gets a pass about choking for one reason: 1 Super Bowl win. He used to be the biggest choker, and then the Colts won. Fans don't get that it's not a one-man game.
At some pooint they will have to move on from McNabb - no player is effective indefinitely. The problem they have is no QB depth past this season, since Kolb & Vick both expire after 2010 as well.
Vick isn't really a QB, so I think it's got to be Kolb or McNabb. I think Kolb can be a solid QB in the league, but this is set up poorly.
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Post by Erbes on Mar 25, 2010 17:12:36 GMT -4
A lot of the reason McNabb puts up "mediocre" numbers is because they don't run the ball effectively. I remember watching a Sunday night game or whenever and the commentators showing a breakdown of the Eagles' offense and it was like 77-23 pass to run. I don't care if you're Manning, Brees, or Brady, your team needs to be able to suck the defense in with the run for the pass game to be effective. I think the real problem is Andy Reid.
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Post by Marcus on Mar 25, 2010 17:26:56 GMT -4
A lot of the reason McNabb puts up "mediocre" numbers is because they don't run the ball effectively. I remember watching a Sunday night game or whenever and the commentators showing a breakdown of the Eagles' offense and it was like 77-23 pass to run. I don't care if you're Manning, Brees, or Brady, your team needs to be able to suck the defense in with the run for the pass game to be effective. I think the real problem is Andy Reid. I been saying this for the longest. I love, Andy Reid. But his play calling pisses me off. Passing every down isnt going to work on all teams. And thats why the cowboys have our #. They know what we are going to do and thats play action or just pass it Eagles will never win a superbowl till we get a run game
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Post by Steve on Mar 25, 2010 18:08:23 GMT -4
What am I going to miss? Nothing...he didn't win a SB and that's ultimately what I judge it on. If the Phillies didn't win in 2008, but are the NL Champs 2 years in a row...that's not good enough for me. Maybe for you, but it's embarrassing to be 1-4 in NFC Championship Games.
And how can you love Reid when that's his job on the field? He sucks with the play-calling...he can draft and that's all he can do.
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Post by Marcus on Mar 25, 2010 18:22:00 GMT -4
What am I going to miss? Nothing...he didn't win a SB and that's ultimately what I judge it on. If the Phillies didn't win in 2008, but are the NL Champs 2 years in a row...that's not good enough for me. Maybe for you, but it's embarrassing to be 1-4 in NFC Championship Games. And how can you love Reid when that's his job on the field? He sucks with the play-calling...he can draft and that's all he can do. You will miss him. We have no shot in hell winning a SB with kolb as the starter. I can love andy even tho he fucks up. He isnt perfect, I think he just needs to understand we wont go far in the playoffs without a running game
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Post by Erbes on Mar 25, 2010 18:30:17 GMT -4
What am I going to miss? Nothing...he didn't win a SB and that's ultimately what I judge it on. If the Phillies didn't win in 2008, but are the NL Champs 2 years in a row...that's not good enough for me. Maybe for you, but it's embarrassing to be 1-4 in NFC Championship Games. And how can you love Reid when that's his job on the field? He sucks with the play-calling...he can draft and that's all he can do. Yeah I dont like this view either. It sucks being the bridesmaid all the time, but just think, your team just beat out 12 others to be in the a championship game. I know its not THE championship, but think of all the players sitting on their couches watching. McNabb is way better than Kolb and he proved that by getting you guys to 5 conference championships. Would you like to know how many conference championships the Bills have been to this decade? Thats zero. So yeah it sucks not winning the Super Bowl every other year, but trust me being one step away from it is a lot more satisfying than not even being in the discussion.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Mar 25, 2010 20:28:15 GMT -4
Cowboys in the Super Bowl next year in Dallas bitches!!!!!!!!! I will be going for sure. Would be the greatest super bowl party ever.
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Post by Steve on Mar 25, 2010 21:51:16 GMT -4
What am I going to miss? Nothing...he didn't win a SB and that's ultimately what I judge it on. If the Phillies didn't win in 2008, but are the NL Champs 2 years in a row...that's not good enough for me. Maybe for you, but it's embarrassing to be 1-4 in NFC Championship Games. And how can you love Reid when that's his job on the field? He sucks with the play-calling...he can draft and that's all he can do. Yeah I dont like this view either. It sucks being the bridesmaid all the time, but just think, your team just beat out 12 others to be in the a championship game. I know its not THE championship, but think of all the players sitting on their couches watching. McNabb is way better than Kolb and he proved that by getting you guys to 5 conference championships. Would you like to know how many conference championships the Bills have been to this decade? Thats zero. So yeah it sucks not winning the Super Bowl every other year, but trust me being one step away from it is a lot more satisfying than not even being in the discussion. True, I think, though, that with 5 NFC championship games...there would be at least 1 SB...it's just a more frustrating view I suppose and I think you'd agree if you knew what it was like. And of course McNabb is way better because Kolb has 2 starts to his name...he has to prove himself, obviously. And Marcus, keep waiting for that to happen because he has NEVER ran the ball.
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Post by Steve on Mar 25, 2010 21:51:57 GMT -4
Cowboys in the Super Bowl next year in Dallas bitches!!!!!!!!! I will be going for sure. Would be the greatest super bowl party ever. Not with HOMO
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Post by nferg18 on Apr 4, 2010 20:31:04 GMT -4
god fucking damnit skins traded for McRibb. this is about teh worst fucking thing ever. I cant beleive im gonna have to cheer for that fat piece of shit.
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Post by stevegamer on Apr 4, 2010 21:13:38 GMT -4
Most of my friends whoa re Eagles fans are stupid, and have wanted him gone for a while. They got their wish.
I want the Redskins to beat the eagles at the Linc next year. Eagles fans are happiest when they are depressed and fatalistic.
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Post by kfilament on Apr 4, 2010 21:30:10 GMT -4
wow, really surprised to see him go to another East team, obviously being the only team in the East in need of a QB. Oh well, they didnt give up much for him, so I call this a win for the Skins for sure.
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Post by Erbes on Apr 4, 2010 21:34:21 GMT -4
I think this is poor class from the Eagles. I have no problem with them trading him, but to a division rival? That's a low blow. Its going to be so awkward for him when he plays in Philly. I still think McNabb is a top 7 quarterback in the league and he immediately upgrades the Redskins, but I feel terrible for him. Bummer he couldn't come to Buffalo.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2010 22:09:36 GMT -4
Great move for the Redskins, McNabb is a legit QB who knows how to win. Eagles will regret this move.
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Post by nferg18 on Apr 4, 2010 22:11:46 GMT -4
Every one like this move for the skins but its gonna be so hard to cheer for mcnabb
If we can trade campbell for some picks to make up what we gave up it could turn out pretty good
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