DrIronFist
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I think I just shit my pants...
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Post by DrIronFist on Mar 28, 2006 20:59:10 GMT -4
And exactly how are we to refer to people for Mexico Jogo?
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Post by Jogo on Mar 28, 2006 21:04:11 GMT -4
Like I said it's not in a racist way it terms it's not ment to be offensive but if you read this thread carefully you'll see people saying "mexicans do this" "mexicans are like this" "blacks are this way" etc etc . And by no means I'm trying to say I'm different. We all generalize. That can be a problem but we all do it probably because it's easier. It's completely off topic though so excuse my remark.
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Zoltar
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Post by Zoltar on Mar 28, 2006 21:04:46 GMT -4
illegal means "not according to or authorized by law" They are breaking the law. why should we jsut say. oh its ok you did something illegally, we forgive you. why not do the same to criminals. It's double standards
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Post by Jogo on Mar 28, 2006 21:10:16 GMT -4
I can't wait for Spurs to get involved. Him and Stork have like exact opposite ways of thinking. (both pretty flawed )
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DSP2489
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Post by DSP2489 on Mar 28, 2006 21:11:35 GMT -4
illegal means "not according to or authorized by law" They are breaking the law. why should we jsut say. oh its ok you did something illegally, we forgive you. why not do the same to criminals. It's double standards well actually the government is doing that as i believe they are granting all who are already here in the US citizenship with teh passage of the bill or something of that nature....also i am not sure but i believe that this has been done several times
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Post by Jogo on Mar 28, 2006 21:16:19 GMT -4
All the population of the world should be randomly drawed and put into one country. Then we would start over. Though luck if you landed in Africa.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2006 23:05:13 GMT -4
Using force against anyone to achieve a social or political goal is wrong in any circumstance. Murdering someone is using force. So is stealing, rape, arson, etc. We need laws to protect people from using force on other people because you're right - not everyone is a good person. how about using force to stop murder? to stop crime? to stop rape? to stop arson? edit: of course i dont believe that murder crime.......etc tetc are all right but i just felt like killing the argument Using force to stop force is acceptable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2006 23:06:19 GMT -4
illegal means "not according to or authorized by law" They are breaking the law. why should we jsut say. oh its ok you did something illegally, we forgive you. why not do the same to criminals. It's double standards What if it wasn't against the law anymore? Then would you still have a problem with it?
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Post by rjstew94 on Mar 29, 2006 2:17:37 GMT -4
I don't know if I even want to go there with the race issue and welfare and other social programs.
Let's just say that there are plenty of people out there that know how to work the system to there advantage. It's not worth it to them to keep their husband around for the aid they will receive as a single parent.
In California and other states if they make a certain amount of money then they will not qualify for HUD or Medi-Cal. The benefits of these programs far outweigh making another $5,000 a year in salary.
So what would you do in that situation?
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Post by rjstew94 on Mar 29, 2006 2:21:39 GMT -4
The Government wastes a lot of money if it were a business it would have been bankrupt along time ago.
The state of California will be in deep shit in the next 10 years unless something changes. The majority of the population doesn't want change so it will be the states downfall in the long run. They will continue to tax, regulate and license the piss out of small business and the middle class. The cost of living here is already astronomic and the state continues to chase away businesses and young professionals. Good luck buying a fucking house in Cali. When you can buy the same house in another state for 600k less and make more money after taxes what would you do?
The state is beautiful and has everything you'd ever want to do but bottom line it will turn into a welfare state unless big changes are made. The cost of controlling immigration is just a small part the state wants there hands in everything and it's not cheap.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Mar 29, 2006 3:01:38 GMT -4
I don't think the Gov't is granting any citizenship for the immigrants that are over here now or else there wouldn't be so many people protesting in the country because they could stay in the country and probably make more money then there making now. The bill that is trying to be passed is that it will be a felony to hire illegal immigrants.
If all of the supposedly illegal immigrants were given citizenship there wouldn't be a problem because if you think about it this would make it easier for mexicans to become citizens with marriage. Not saying they would marry into the family,lol, but they know lots of friends and friends of the family, etc. So, marrying into citizenship would be really easy compared to what it is now.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Mar 29, 2006 3:07:06 GMT -4
On talking about the Gov't part, i don't dissagree that we need a Gov't because we do, but i think that the Gov't comes up with so many rules that wastes money that could be used for making the country better and taking care of people. Please tell me why us tax payers pay for 12 million a year in California for police services of stopping Marijuana? It's not like Marijuana is fucking up people or how they interact.
Actually Marijuana happens to be top 3 in Cash crops in California. I personally think the drug is no different than alcohal. Just put laws agianst this drug like alcohal. We just waste so much money on bullshit for no reason.
Like why do we spend 400 billion dollars on war to make a country supposedly a Democracy because thats what the American Gov't wants. Thats a lot of money just to kill people and change a Gov't in a country. The world wouldn't be poor if people used the money the right way and that is for the people. The mass of the people not the top rich 1%.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2006 3:07:09 GMT -4
The Government wastes a lot of money if it were a business it would have been bankrupt along time ago. The government is the only thing that doesn't have to make it's "customers" happy in order to keep getting money from them. Why do you think the DMV is such a hell-hole. If that were a private organization doing the same thing it would be 10x better, much cheaper, and a much friendlier place to go.
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Post by rjstew94 on Mar 29, 2006 3:48:58 GMT -4
We can go on and on and on. They've got there noses in everything there's so many boards, commissions and other crap that could be eliminated. In my Industry alone I can't believe the amount of things they license, permit and patrol and it's fucking gas stations, c-stores and car washes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2006 6:05:19 GMT -4
And we get the pleasure of (over) paying for ALL of it.
Thanks daddy government!
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