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Post by Zoltar on Apr 22, 2006 19:21:05 GMT -4
under god doesnt even have to be associated with a church though. It is just stated that there is a divine presence that gave us our land
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2006 20:19:51 GMT -4
GOD is associated with some sort of church.
The term GOD is ambiguous enough to not be 100% sure that it is the christian god, but any god is directly related to some sort of church.
Which means that the church and the state are not separated.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Apr 22, 2006 20:25:40 GMT -4
How did God give divine presence to the land? Did God tell all of the Anglos to go find a country and kill all the native americans and take their land? Did god tell Anglos that because their white which means pure that black people are far inferior to them because of their skin? Don't think so, God is for each person's choice to believe in, not to impose on others which people do.
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Post by Zoltar on Apr 22, 2006 20:27:47 GMT -4
havent you ever heard of mormonism, black people are the devils, well its part of what they believe. i dont think that but it was ina mormon video i saw
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2006 20:30:24 GMT -4
The christians completely destroyed the Roman empire and all technology they had there. Plus they went on crusades, killing thousands of people.
Now Bush is christian and killing thousands of Iraqis.
Christians talk a lot about getting along with everyone and loving thy neighbor and the golden rule and all that - but over the course of history it has been Christians that have caused the most devastation to all people not like them.
Oh yeah. Hitler was christian too.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Apr 22, 2006 20:36:51 GMT -4
Yeah, they changed their book and took out the part that African decent wasn't allowed in the book of Morman. My friend once had mormans come to his door and talk with him and he asked them about that part because he is from Africa, and they told him the book has changed.
Which goes back to my first reason of religion and bibles. Did god tell some morman that he should change the book and allow African decent people to be allowed to be mormans? No, regular people change the book, so how can anyone believe anything out of bibles, except that they are just stories and fairy tales because people change them?
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Post by DSP2489 on Apr 22, 2006 20:43:38 GMT -4
Oh yeah. Hitler was christian too. and bin laden is muslim does that make the 2 largest religions in the world wrong?
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Post by DSP2489 on Apr 22, 2006 20:49:01 GMT -4
Christians talk a lot about getting along with everyone and loving thy neighbor and the golden rule and all that - but over the course of history it has been Christians that have caused the most devastation to all people not like them. i like to think of people as sperate entities who control their own fate and decisions. bascially i believe that you control what you do and that what you do matters more than what someone else does. Ok so people in the past have done bad things, but its not like everything is perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2006 20:51:50 GMT -4
Oh yeah. Hitler was christian too. and bin laden is muslim does that make the 2 largest religions in the world wrong? No, but it makes two of the biggest tragedies of the past 100 years both done in the name of religion.
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Post by FUCK GATOR MONTH!! O H!! on Apr 22, 2006 20:53:56 GMT -4
maybe they can hear voices that we cant hear, slap em crazy and just shoot them in the head
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Post by DSP2489 on Apr 22, 2006 21:10:13 GMT -4
and bin laden is muslim does that make the 2 largest religions in the world wrong? No, but it makes two of the biggest tragedies of the past 100 years both done in the name of religion. but should the actions of other people mar the group and the people who had nothing to do with it? (yea thats a long question lol) so there are some extremist thinkers out there, they are just like people who kill others becasue their dog told them to do it
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Post by Seattle Slough on Apr 23, 2006 1:44:21 GMT -4
What are the main reasons that there are War now? Most likely religion and government are the top 2. I just think that people take religion way too serious that it is worth killing people over because they believe in something different or think a different way. People need to realize that everyone is different and thinks differently. If we all thought the same way the world would be boring, but in know way you should impose your beliefs on other people or kill them for that matter.
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Post by Zoltar on Apr 23, 2006 2:15:40 GMT -4
Muslims are usually the ones that kill people who arent muslim
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2006 2:53:32 GMT -4
Did you just completely skip over my 2nd post on this page?
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Post by Seattle Slough on Apr 23, 2006 14:14:33 GMT -4
Muslims are the only ones that kill people who aren't muslim? You watch entirely too much mainstream news. Thats what they want you to think, Arabs and Muslims are crazy and are all terrorist's. How come you never hear of any anglo saxon decent people killing people or being terrorists, or christians? What is the religion for Israeli's? Im pretty sure they are killing people for no fucking reason except for religion saying they belong in Jeruseluem, Oh by the way the United States funds all of that killing, about 10 million dollars a day. Nice to see that the United states keeps wars going.
Lets just kill fucking everyone, except rich white people, that sounds about right. This world is entirely too fucked up, and people don't give a shit.
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