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Post by Boyd on Jul 4, 2006 22:00:02 GMT -4
Will any sport ever eclipse the NFL in popularity in the United States? Why or why not?
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Post by chang on Jul 4, 2006 23:07:11 GMT -4
I would say no. I think it's safe to say, about 95% of men in the US watch the NFL. With the games being on Sunday, it's an event or a party. The Super Bowl is the most watched event of the year.
However, the only side note I would have is that soccer could become extremely popular in the US if we ever win the World Cup, probably will not eclipse the NFL though. It's extremely popular everywhere else in the world especially Europe.
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Post by sirphawk on Jul 4, 2006 23:57:25 GMT -4
Ever seen Basketball
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Post by chang on Jul 5, 2006 0:11:44 GMT -4
I dunno. Basketball... people know about it but they don't watch it as religiously as the NFL cause there are 82 games, potentially 7 game playoffs. And the NCAA tourney is only when casual basketball fans watch and it's usually just cause they have an office pool or their alma mater is in it.
Casual NFL fans watch a lot games usually with friends and/or family, drinking beers, eating pizza/hot dogs, so there's a social aspect to watching the NFL and there's tops 20 games in the season including playoffs. Each game means a lot more so more people pay attention to it.
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Post by DSP2489 on Jul 5, 2006 0:22:36 GMT -4
im not really sold on it but there are some that could argue that NASCAR is the most popular sport in the US imo Baseball is up there with Football........Basetball is just a tier below that while Hockey is even lower i dont know much about NASCAR so i dunno where that would go
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Jul 5, 2006 0:28:59 GMT -4
Will any sport ever eclipse the NFL in popularity in the United States? Why or why not? Sir, your answer is no. A resounding no, at least not in our lifetime. Look no further than the base of the sport at the high school, college, and pro levels and there is just no comparison. Basketball isn't even a close 2nd. The attendence, ratings, and merchandise prove this point. Nine of the top 10 most watched PROGRAMS this year were football events...the only show that wasn't a football game was the final episode of American Idol and it was about 4th or 5th. Basketball will never, ever, ever eclipse football in the US as the #1 sport during our lifetime and if you believe otherwise you are just a blind hopeful basketball purest :-) It had a chance to do so when Jordan played, but the time after Jordan retired was dreadful. Basketball missed its chance. The only other sport with any hope is baseball; and with roids and marketing clouding the game that won't happen anytime soon either. Football is #1...forever
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Post by John on Jul 5, 2006 7:41:25 GMT -4
Basketball will never, ever, ever eclipse football in the US as the #1 sport during our lifetime and if you believe otherwise you are just a blind hopeful basketball purest :-) It had a chance to do so when Jordan played, but the time after Jordan retired was dreadful. Basketball missed its chance. Football is #1...forever Basketball was more popular than football during the Bird/Magic/Jordan days.
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Jul 5, 2006 7:57:07 GMT -4
Not when you count in college football...and even if you don't that quote is debatable. Teams like Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, Penn State, Michigan, etc., have about 100,000 people in the stadium for a football game...and thats not counting the 40 something thousand people around the stadium not going to the game. I don't remember a basketball game with that many people clamouring to get into it...let alone 50 of them on one Saturday.
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Post by sirphawk on Jul 5, 2006 8:15:35 GMT -4
LOL
Sorry I meant Baseketball - you know the movie with the guys from southpark.
In the movie all the sports sell out so they invent this game called Baseketball which is a mix between Basketball and baseball and it takes over the US as the number 1 game.
Sorry my attempt at comedy.
In my short stay in teh States I noticed NFL was very strong.........im not sure if anything else somes close
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Post by bucksgm on Jul 5, 2006 9:06:41 GMT -4
I think eventually something may come along to eclipse the NFL. But it would take a lot of time and a lot of money and just a little bit of luck as well...
There is no sport that is more tailor-made for today's America than the NFL. It has tremendous excitement, with lots of stats and numbers, plenty of time for commercial breaks so the advertisers love to support it, and a steady, strong customer base that ADORES the product. In addition, there is a built-in incredibly popular minor league system in college football that churns out phenomenal new prospects year-in and year-out.
No other sport can match all that, and until they can, the NFL will reign supreme.
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Post by John on Jul 5, 2006 9:15:44 GMT -4
Not when you count in college football...and even if you don't that quote is debatable. Teams like Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, Penn State, Michigan, etc., have about 100,000 people in the stadium for a football game...and thats not counting the 40 something thousand people around the stadium not going to the game. I don't remember a basketball game with that many people clamouring to get into it...let alone 50 of them on one Saturday. College football is irrelevant to this discussion.
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Post by John on Jul 5, 2006 9:18:47 GMT -4
There is no sport that is more tailor-made for today's America than the NFL. It has tremendous excitement, with lots of stats and numbers, plenty of time for commercial breaks so the advertisers love to support it, and a steady, strong customer base that ADORES the product. i think you hit the nail on the head about the commercial breaks - that is where it's at. no pro sport is more tailor made for television than the NFL and that makes a popular sport like american pro football into the stratosphere in society for popularity.
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Jul 5, 2006 9:24:25 GMT -4
Well then the answer is clear and this discussion can be ended. College football may one day eclipse the NFL in popularity. Nothing else will come close.
If there was ever a chance for another sport to take over, it was when Jordan played in the 90's. The NBA made the devistating decision to go hip-hop and it missed it's window of opportunity.
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Post by John on Jul 5, 2006 9:46:56 GMT -4
Well then the answer is clear and this discussion can be ended. College football may one day eclipse the NFL in popularity. Nothing else will come close. If there was ever a chance for another sport to take over, it was when Jordan played in the 90's. The NBA made the devistating decision to go hip-hop and it missed it's window of opportunity. i think the discussion has just started, though it seems unlikely that anything will take over the NFL immediately in terms of popularity. college football is a good suggestion though. personally though, the NBA in the mid to late 80's was probably at least equally as popular as the NBA in the early 90's. it was incredibly popular, and probably close to what the NFL is now. which means that sometime, maybe soon, another sport could take over.
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Jul 5, 2006 10:00:19 GMT -4
Wasn't there are strike or a lockout in the NFL in the late 80's? I don't really know. That could have been the reason why the NBA crept up on the NFL. If you just look at the ratings now, regular season NFL games are getting twice the ratings of NBA finals and playoff games. There's a reason why a football stadium has 80,000 seats and a basketball stadium has around 20,000.
The only way a sport is going to outdo the NFL is if the NFL makes some type of collosal error such as a lockout or a strike or turns into baseball and lets the larger market teams have their way. At the same time, you are either going to let some of the smaller market teams in baseball have a fighting chance to compete or have a Jordan type player win championships in a large market city like New York. Kobe and Shaq come close to star quality in LA...but people don't really like Kobe, so they didn't latch onto the Lakers like people did with the Bulls. College football is already king in the South and mid-west, but it's going to take a big blunder for anything else to overtake the NFL in other parts of the country over the next few decades
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