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Post by The Trade Launderer on Oct 26, 2005 17:06:22 GMT -4
nice deal for the Bucks. Bogut won't be ready for another 2-3 years and they get an all-star caliber center in the meantime. Thier first should be good, but somewhere around 9th or 10th...not #1 like last year the bucks will be contending for a playoff spot not the 9,10th pick...especially w/ the addtition of magloire
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Post by Dan on Oct 26, 2005 17:07:02 GMT -4
nice deal for the Bucks. Bogut won't be ready for another 2-3 years and they get an all-star caliber center in the meantime. Thier first should be good, but somewhere around 9th or 10th...not #1 like last year the bucks will be contending for a playoff spot not the 9,10th pick...especially w/ the addtition of magloire i agree, i say if team chemistry works right, bucks are a top 6 team out east this year.
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Post by Jogo on Oct 26, 2005 17:08:06 GMT -4
Probably the best deal Hornets could get but no question that the Bucks got a good deal for themselves and improve. They get one rare good center for a decent SF that they didn't need anyway. So in the end with this deal they might very well make the playoffs and their pick won't be that good.
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Post by John on Oct 26, 2005 17:08:20 GMT -4
I like it a lot for NO. Magloire wanted out. He was an all-star only cause the East sucked at center. Really? Last I saw Ben Wallace and Shaq were pretty darn good. Magloire was an all-star when Shaq was with the Lakers.
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Post by skones on Oct 26, 2005 17:09:57 GMT -4
I like it a lot for NO. Magloire wanted out. He was an all-star only cause the East sucked at center. FYI, the WHOLE LEAGUE sucks at center. Name the top 5 centers in the league, and Magloire without a doubt in my opinion is one of them. I'd easily take him over Zydrunas Ilgauskas not only because of his age, but also because of his defensive capabilities. Also, Amare will not be listed at center because he IS a power forward. 1. Shaq 2. Yao 3. Wallace 4. Miller 5. Magloire
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Post by John on Oct 26, 2005 17:12:48 GMT -4
I like it a lot for NO. Magloire wanted out. He was an all-star only cause the East sucked at center. FYI, the WHOLE LEAGUE sucks at center. Name the top 5 centers in the league, and Magloire without a doubt in my opinion is one of them. I'd easily take him over Zydrunas Ilgauskas not only because of his age, but also because of his defensive capabilities. Also, Amare will not be listed at center because he IS a power forward. 1. Shaq 2. Yao 3. Miller 4. Magloire 5. Yeesh, Skones, your credibility took a big hit here. Who cares where Amare is "listed"? I only care where he plays on the court, and for the Suns last year, he played a lot of center. As did Ben Wallace, Tim Duncan, Jermaine O'Neal, Emeka Okafor, and Chris Bosh to name some. Certainly all of these players played center for their NBA teams last season and all are certainly better than Magloire.
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Post by skones on Oct 26, 2005 17:15:26 GMT -4
I didnt mean what the NBA lists him at, I mean I will not put him at center, because he IS a power forward. They brought in KT so KT could play the 5 and Amare could shift back to his preferred 4. Wallace was on my part, somehow he just slipped my mind, but Duncan is a PF as are JO Emeka and Bosh. As far as I'm concerned, my credibility shouldnt take ANY hit at all. I'm talking about TRUE centers, the only guy you listed out of that group that is a true center is wallace and my list was modified to show my mistake.
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Post by bucksgm on Oct 26, 2005 19:32:11 GMT -4
I called Milwaukee a crap franchise but I suppose I should have called it a very average franchise.
Since 1987, the team has had ONE season where it finished with 50 or more regular season wins (2000-01; 52-30; lost in ECF to Philly). Even the lowly Grizzlies and Hawks can say they've equaled that feat. In fact, since 1987, the Bucks are 110 games below .500. By any definition, that's pretty bad. However, I'll simply say this: the modern-day Bucks are the very definition of mediocre--usually not horrible, but never very good.
This year's squad looks fairly decent on paper, although the coaching staff leaves a lot to be desired. Terry Stotts is not what I would call a great, or even good, coach. The front office is a shambles--GM Larry Harris basically stabbed Terry Porter in the back in the offseason by throwing him to the wolves and allowing him to get fired. You'll pardon me if I don't share quite the excitement that some have. This team would win 30-35 games in the West, but in the East, it will likely reach the 40-45 win mark and ease into the playoffs. As I said, I'm not trying to attack Milwaukee, because it's a nice city, but the Bucks, on the whole, are just not very good.
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Post by John on Oct 26, 2005 20:07:16 GMT -4
I didnt mean what the NBA lists him at, I mean I will not put him at center, because he IS a power forward. I guess I'm lost. I really could care less who you consider a center and who you don't. You have about the same importance over NBA basketball as I have - zilch. However, I do care about what the NBA teams play players at - and they play the above players at center. So whether you'd like to see them at power forward is irrelevant, I'd have to think. The only way Magloire makes it onto any top 5 centers list is if you're looking at all of the best centers who play basketball in Milwaukee.
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Post by Jogo on Oct 26, 2005 20:16:41 GMT -4
Jermaine didn't play C most of the time, Foster did. Okafor didn't play center most of the time, Brezec did. It's hard to label a player as C just because they can play there.
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Post by John on Oct 26, 2005 20:17:47 GMT -4
It's hard to label a player as C just because they can play there. It was pretty easy for me. To me, PF/C still equals center. Tomahto = tomato.
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Post by The Trade Launderer on Oct 26, 2005 20:31:30 GMT -4
i'd rank the centers like this:
1.Shaq 2. Big ben 3.Yao 4.Miller 5.Z 6.Magloire 7. Curry 8.Dalembert 9.Swift 10.wright
Potential Wise: 1.Dalembert 2.Curry 3.Kwame 4.Swift 5.Magloire
so yes, magloire is a top quality center
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2005 22:07:29 GMT -4
I think some people here are having a hard time telling the difference between a power forward and a center
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Post by "Three Time" on Oct 26, 2005 22:10:24 GMT -4
yeah we shoudl go by whats in the box score not if say the PF for team A guards the other teams center and the center gaurds him. so like PAU.. everyone says he is PF although he guards the other teams center most of the time nad the other teams center gaurds him.
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Post by Jogo on Oct 26, 2005 23:17:01 GMT -4
Is that what matters for you to being a C?
Why doesn't fratelo talk about Pau as the C and Wright has the PF then?
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