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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Mar 6, 2008 15:47:08 GMT -4
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Mar 6, 2008 15:59:31 GMT -4
The ESPN manufactured Lebron hype is unbelievable. Give me a break. MVPs the last ten years
2006-07 NBA Dirk Nowitzki (67-15) 2005-06 NBA Steve Nash (54-28) 2004-05 NBA Steve Nash (62-20) 2003-04 NBA Kevin Garnett (58-24) 2002-03 NBA Tim Duncan (60-22) 2001-02 NBA Tim Duncan (58-24) 2000-01 NBA Allen Iverson (56-26) 1999-00 NBA Shaquille ONeal (67-15) 1998-99 NBA Karl Malone (37-13) 1997-98 NBA Michael Jordan (62-20)
The Cavaliers are 35-26 and would be the 10th seed in the West right now. They wouldn't even make the playoffs.
Give me a MVP who plays exceptionally on both sides of the floor while leading his team to a great regular season record.
1. Kobe Bryant 2. Chris Paul 3. Tim Duncan 4. Kevin Garnett
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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Mar 6, 2008 16:05:11 GMT -4
I agree! I think if you look at the transformation not only Kobe went through, but what that team has become, I don't think it's close. Even the biggest Kobe hater, can't hate on what he's doing on both ends of the floor. Kobe will be first team offense/Defense. He is what the MVP is suppose to be. The best player in the game should be able to do it on both ends of the floor and not just put up godly offensive numbers. I love Lebron, but I personally don't think it's close. Looking at numbers it is, but watching games it's not. I'm more impressed with Pauls all around game, then I am with Lebrons.
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Post by Pem on Mar 6, 2008 16:33:27 GMT -4
Easy, Kobe.
A relatively close second is CP3. Yay me for picking him as the cover guy for 2K8!
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Post by db25 on Mar 6, 2008 16:50:13 GMT -4
Agreed, Kobe with Paul 2nd.
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Post by John on Mar 6, 2008 18:25:49 GMT -4
without any question, kevin garnett. the transformation of the celtics has been incredible with him on both sides of the court, especially defense and including in the locker room. he deserved the MVP for the first half of the season; hopefully he will for the 2nd half as well - the most important half.
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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Mar 6, 2008 18:28:41 GMT -4
without any question, kevin garnett. the transformation of the celtics has been incredible with him on both sides of the court, especially defense and including in the locker room. he deserved the MVP for the first half of the season; hopefully he will for the 2nd half as well - the most important half. KG has been great, but he's missed too many games this season. I also think Paul Pierce is almost as valuable as Garnett to that team. I do think that Pierce & KG is the most deadly combo in the league right now
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Mar 6, 2008 18:40:51 GMT -4
without any question, kevin garnett. the transformation of the celtics has been incredible with him on both sides of the court, especially defense and including in the locker room. he deserved the MVP for the first half of the season; hopefully he will for the 2nd half as well - the most important half. KG has been great, but he's missed too many games this season. I also think Paul Pierce is almost as valuable as Garnett to that team. I do think that Pierce & KG is the most deadly combo in the league right now I think the same effect with hurt Duncan's MVP chances. Ginobli is that good and seriously underrated. Gasol and Bynum will likely hurt Kobe's chances next year.
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Post by John on Mar 6, 2008 19:11:40 GMT -4
without any question, kevin garnett. the transformation of the celtics has been incredible with him on both sides of the court, especially defense and including in the locker room. he deserved the MVP for the first half of the season; hopefully he will for the 2nd half as well - the most important half. KG has been great, but he's missed too many games this season. I also think Paul Pierce is almost as valuable as Garnett to that team. I do think that Pierce & KG is the most deadly combo in the league right now he has missed just 8 games out of over 50. pierce is nowhere near as valuable as garnett. pierce was on the team last year and they won 24 games.
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Mar 6, 2008 19:18:20 GMT -4
It was actually nine games and the Celtics were 7-2 without him.
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Post by John on Mar 6, 2008 19:21:14 GMT -4
without any question, kevin garnett. the transformation of the celtics has been incredible with him on both sides of the court, especially defense and including in the locker room. he deserved the MVP for the first half of the season; hopefully he will for the 2nd half as well - the most important half. KG has been great, but he's missed too many games this season. I also think Paul Pierce is almost as valuable as Garnett to that team. I do think that Pierce & KG is the most deadly combo in the league right now though i do see your point too. thought about editing my post, but thought this would be better. while he did miss some games, his difference was felt immediately and continues to be felt, even as recently as last night, as the celtics beat up the pistons and garnett's 30 points was a big reason why. he's brought a winning attitude to the court, to practice and the locker room, so it is even felt when he isn't playing.
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Post by Ballin on Mar 6, 2008 19:24:24 GMT -4
KG has always been a beast, just with his mentality athletisism and nobody fills the stat sheet across the board like KG. Kobe is MVP though showing all the haters again why he is hands down the best in the league. CP3 will win an MVP eventually he took over thee throne of Best pure PG in the game this year in my eyes.
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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Mar 6, 2008 19:26:08 GMT -4
KG has been great, but he's missed too many games this season. I also think Paul Pierce is almost as valuable as Garnett to that team. I do think that Pierce & KG is the most deadly combo in the league right now he has missed just 8 games out of over 50. pierce is nowhere near as valuable as garnett. pierce was on the team last year and they won 24 games. And your saying his better then Paul and Kobe who play in a way tougher conference and both had lesser pieces (up until the Gasol deal) Are you kidding me, Paul Pierce is the offense for the Celtics. As UCLA said, when Garnett went down they still held there own. I'm not taking from Garnets value to that team, but I don't see it being greater to what Kobe or CP3 has done for the Lakers and Hornets. And you do realize the 9 out 50 games is almost 20% of the season right?
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Post by John on Mar 6, 2008 22:17:41 GMT -4
Are you kidding me, Paul Pierce is the offense for the Celtics. As UCLA said, when Garnett went down they still held there own. I'm not taking from Garnets value to that team, but I don't see it being greater to what Kobe or CP3 has done for the Lakers and Hornets. not sure if you watch the celtics ever, but the offense goes through garnett - not pierce. pierce most certainly is not "the" offense for the celtics. he averages the most points but that's not the whole story if you watch them. so yes, i guess i'm kidding you.
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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Mar 6, 2008 22:34:05 GMT -4
Are you kidding me, Paul Pierce is the offense for the Celtics. As UCLA said, when Garnett went down they still held there own. I'm not taking from Garnets value to that team, but I don't see it being greater to what Kobe or CP3 has done for the Lakers and Hornets. not sure if you watch the celtics ever, but the offense goes through garnett - not pierce. pierce most certainly is not "the" offense for the celtics. he averages the most points but that's not the whole story if you watch them. so yes, i guess i'm kidding you. I never said that Garnett isn't shit, and means nothing offensivly. What I'm saying is that Pierce is a big part of that team, and that team got it done without KG. Take Bron,CPS, Kobe away from thier teams and they won't win many games. I think playing in the East right now hurts players MVP chances. Thats why for the last 6 years a West player has won. The East is really garbage, and it's hard to guage a players abilities in the East. We all know Garnett is the truth, but the question is "could he hold that same record with that same team in the West" I know they haven't lost much to the west this season, but at the sametime, they are only playing those teams twice a year. And for the fact that you have to ask if Garnett could do it, when you two guys who are doing it, makes it so I say KObe and Paul or more deserving. Again, I'm not knocking Garnett, or your choice of him as MVP. I just would go another route in my decision
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