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Post by BeastModeCowboy on Mar 8, 2008 11:14:39 GMT -4
Shawn Alexander has fallen bad in Seattle and with them signing Duckett and Jones the writing on the wall is now a loud speaker saying pack your shit you bounce like a bad check..................
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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Mar 8, 2008 13:36:49 GMT -4
I still wish that we would had waited til after the draft, just to see if we could move up and grab one of the elite 4 backs this year.
but anything is better then Shauns perfomance last season
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Mar 8, 2008 14:19:06 GMT -4
wasn't he hurt last year?
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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Mar 8, 2008 14:42:23 GMT -4
he got hurt in the middle of the season, but his numbers were horrible before the injury. The Seahawks held him on IR for two extra weeks because he was sucking so bad. dude was getting 65 yards a game. He has sucked for the last two seasons bad
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Post by db25 on Mar 8, 2008 14:56:12 GMT -4
Alot of mocks had the Hawks taking RB Stewart from Oregon. Interesting combo in Julius Jones/Duckett now.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Mar 8, 2008 15:10:31 GMT -4
Should have never let Hutchinson go,that was Alexanders mojo. Alexander is good, but that offensive line made him a god.
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Mar 8, 2008 15:16:24 GMT -4
Should have never let Hutchinson go,that was Alexanders mojo. Alexander is good, but that offensive line made him a god. I was about to say something like this. Alexander has been banged up the last two years and his line isn't as good as it use to be. I'm sure another team will snatch him up...but it sounds like the bridges have been burned in Seattle for whatever reason.
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Mar 8, 2008 15:21:27 GMT -4
Alot of mocks had the Hawks taking RB Stewart from Oregon. Interesting combo in Julius Jones/Duckett now. What would make it even more interesting is if they attached a smoked ham to a fishing pole and glued it onto the top of Duckett's helmet. Seattle better design a blocking scheme that involves the runningbacks running in a straight line because this isn't the most agile bunch in the league.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2008 15:42:29 GMT -4
He wasn't that bad before the injury. He had two 100 yard games and a couple of touchdowns, it was week 5 that he started to go downhill.
Another factor is that he lost his fullback to retirement early into the season.
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Post by DRE on Mar 8, 2008 16:25:13 GMT -4
All I see is them running the best player they've ever had out the door, and that's not too smart in my opinion.
-Dre
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Post by stevegamer on Mar 8, 2008 16:29:16 GMT -4
It's actually been a combination of things:
1. The Hutchinson poison pill contract by Minnesota. If the 'Hawks were smart they would've matched it, and figured out a way to pay Jones the same or $1 less than Hutch. Best guard in football, I think.
2. Losing Mack Strong (great name for a fullback) hurt. Weaver is more of a combo runner/blocker, and not the quality lead blocker Mack was.
3. Injury. He wasn't 100%, but he wasn't the same pre-injury as before either.
4. Age & wear.
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Post by stevegamer on Mar 8, 2008 16:31:27 GMT -4
This is very likely the Seahawks last good year, as Jim Mora, Jr. takes over next season, and he's assembling a roster of talent which is a big change offensively - and he hasn't shown he knows anything about offense at all.
I expect the team to flounder under him.
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Post by Mogwai Mode on Mar 8, 2008 18:27:16 GMT -4
Alexander just isn't a feature back, he might make it as a backup somewhere but his days as a starter are definitely over. The problem with Shaun is that his best skill was his agility, as he would often make multiple cuts behind the line before busting through a hole. But a combination of injuries and just wearing down after so many carries has sapped him of his agility. Unfortunately Alexander doesn't know how to adapt and continues to try to dance behind the line, often coming up with negative yardage or going no where. Add the fact that he is probably the worst receiving back in the NFL and can't/won't block for shit and he has very little value to offer any team.
For those who question Seattle's run blocking, while it's not as good as the 2005 unit with Hutch, it's a common misconception that it contributed to Shaun's decline. Look no further than Morris Maurice, a one-cut back who ended last season with a 4.5 YPC on 140 carries. This line can't open multiple holes anymore but it isn't horrible, it's just that Alexander refused to run through the first hole, always looking to make the "big play".
With the addition of Wahle, this line gets much better by pushing Chris Gray out of a starting job and slotting Rob Sims at RG. I still think the Seahawks might draft a RB, but probably not in the first 2 rounds. As a team with no significant needs, they can take the best player available with confidence. And no, kicker is not/should not be considered a need for any team.
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Post by stevegamer on Mar 8, 2008 19:09:14 GMT -4
Alexander just isn't a feature back, he might make it as a backup somewhere but his days as a starter are definitely over. The problem with Shaun is that his best skill was his agility, as he would often make multiple cuts behind the line before busting through a hole. But a combination of injuries and just wearing down after so many carries has sapped him of his agility. Unfortunately Alexander doesn't know how to adapt and continues to try to dance behind the line, often coming up with negative yardage or going no where. Add the fact that he is probably the worst receiving back in the NFL and can't/won't block for shit and he has very little value to offer any team. For those who question Seattle's run blocking, while it's not as good as the 2005 unit with Hutch, it's a common misconception that it contributed to Shaun's decline. Look no further than Morris Maurice, a one-cut back who ended last season with a 4.5 YPC on 140 carries. This line can't open multiple holes anymore but it isn't horrible, it's just that Alexander refused to run through the first hole, always looking to make the "big play". With the addition of Wahle, this line gets much better by pushing Chris Gray out of a starting job and slotting Rob Sims at RG. I still think the Seahawks might draft a RB, but probably not in the first 2 rounds. As a team with no significant needs, they can take the best player available with confidence. And no, kicker is not/should not be considered a need for any team. I'd say the decline of the OL did contribute, simply because the OL got worse. I agree that Wahle is going to help - and I look forward to seeing if Spencer can continue to progress. Ashworth going also helps - additon by subtraction. I really like the Putzier signing.
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Post by Mogwai Mode on Mar 8, 2008 19:45:18 GMT -4
Alexander just isn't a feature back, he might make it as a backup somewhere but his days as a starter are definitely over. The problem with Shaun is that his best skill was his agility, as he would often make multiple cuts behind the line before busting through a hole. But a combination of injuries and just wearing down after so many carries has sapped him of his agility. Unfortunately Alexander doesn't know how to adapt and continues to try to dance behind the line, often coming up with negative yardage or going no where. Add the fact that he is probably the worst receiving back in the NFL and can't/won't block for shit and he has very little value to offer any team. For those who question Seattle's run blocking, while it's not as good as the 2005 unit with Hutch, it's a common misconception that it contributed to Shaun's decline. Look no further than Morris Maurice, a one-cut back who ended last season with a 4.5 YPC on 140 carries. This line can't open multiple holes anymore but it isn't horrible, it's just that Alexander refused to run through the first hole, always looking to make the "big play". With the addition of Wahle, this line gets much better by pushing Chris Gray out of a starting job and slotting Rob Sims at RG. I still think the Seahawks might draft a RB, but probably not in the first 2 rounds. As a team with no significant needs, they can take the best player available with confidence. And no, kicker is not/should not be considered a need for any team. I'd say the decline of the OL did contribute, simply because the OL got worse. I agree that Wahle is going to help - and I look forward to seeing if Spencer can continue to progress. Ashworth going also helps - additon by subtraction. I really like the Putzier signing. I meant it didn't contribute as much as people are thinking. Like I said, it's definitely not as good, though few lines have or ever will be as good, but it's mostly Shaun and not the lines fault.
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