charliesarmy
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Post by charliesarmy on Dec 2, 2007 22:07:27 GMT -4
What is everyone thinking with the upcoming bowl games.
OSU vs LSU - OSU
OSU beat nobody this year and found themselves backing into the championship game. The big ten was just plain bad this year and I think LSU will destroy the buckeyes
VTU vs KU
I think Beamer ball will be the deciding factor in this game. VTech will block at least one punt or FG and they will have a defensive or special teams TD. I have not been impressed with VTech this year but they will beat Kansas
OU vs WVU
This will be a great game to watch. I saw WVU play at Cincy this year and the speed on the offense was pretty impressive. However, I am picking OU I think thier run D will not WVU but it will contain them enough to win.
Georgia vs Hawaii
This will be another great game to watch. I dont think we will have another Boise State on our hands. I think Hawaii has not looked great off of the Island and they have not played anyone like Georgia. I'll take Georgia.
USC vs Illinois
This one is going to be a laugher. The Illini are one year away from being deserving of a BCS invite. USC, which I hate, should be healthy and will destroy the Illini. I think the Illini will have problems runing the ball against a more athletice Trojan D and Juice cant throw the ball so they will struggle to score. The only thing good that will come from this game is it will be more fuel to the fire against the BCS system and a push for change.
Finally, I am glad to say that my Irish will finish this season with a win. Notre Dame is the king of getting invited to bowl games that they dont deserve to be in and that is the reason why we having won a bowl game in over a decade. Luckily, with three pathetic wins we wont be playing any more football till next year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2007 22:10:53 GMT -4
LSU by a lot Virginia Tech by a lot OU in a close game Hawaii in overtime USC in a blowout
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Post by Seattle Slough on Dec 2, 2007 22:29:34 GMT -4
Ohio state barely virginia tech oklahoma hawaii, yeah boi! USC
by the way the BCS is gay.
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Dec 2, 2007 23:23:37 GMT -4
USC v. Illinois- Any other year, a team like Illinois wouldn't sniff the Rose Bowl. USC will be rested and healthy. USC in a blowout
VT v. Kansas- Will probably be a better game than you think. Kansas will be pumped and play lights out...but VT will win a close one.
Oklahoma v. West Virginia- Can WV rebound? This is going to be a big game for their program. It's going to be hard to rebound from the Pitt game. Oklahoma by a touchdown.
Georgia v. Hawaii- If Hawaii thought Washington was fast...when they see Georgia its going to seem like Washington was running in mud. Hawaii will keep this close for a half, but Georgia's depth give them a 2 td win.
LSU v. Ohio State- If LSU is healthy, this one will be a blowout. Ohio State will basically be playing a road game against a healthy LSU team. LSU wins by 2 tds.
These games kinda suck. If the BCS went w/ LSU v. Ohio State the best games would have been Rose - Georgia v. USC Sugar - Missouri v. Hawaii Fiesta - Oklahoma v. Arizona State Orange - West Virginia v. Virginia Tech
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charliesarmy
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Post by charliesarmy on Dec 2, 2007 23:28:30 GMT -4
These games kinda suck. If the BCS went w/ LSU v. Ohio State the best games would have been Rose - Georgia v. USC Sugar - Missouri v. Hawaii Fiesta - Oklahoma v. Arizona State Orange - West Virginia v. Virginia Tech That also would have made for better non BCS games.... I would have loved to see Illinois Vs Florida ..... I hate Florida and they most likely would have won that game but it would have been sweet to see Zook have a chance to beat them
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Post by charliesarmy on Dec 3, 2007 10:37:36 GMT -4
Opening odds are out
LSU is favored from 4.5 to 5.5.
Virginia Tech is a 3 point favorite over Kansas
Georgia is an 11 point favorite over Hawaii
OU over WVU by 6.5
And the USC is a 14 point favorite over Illinois
again this shows that the BCS and Bowl selectors did not get this right. A two TD spread in a game that involves a team that was not guaranteed a spot is a joke.
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Post by charliesarmy on Dec 3, 2007 11:05:29 GMT -4
I have a theory that has made me feel some what better about the joke the BCS has made out of college football and more specifically of having a system that allows subpar Illinois into a top game. The BCS sees the Big ten as the Kennedy family they are a traditional powerhouse with two big names(OSU and UM) and a third crazy old man (Penn State) but everyone forgets the other Kennedy. That of coarse is Rosemary (Illinois). For those who dont remember Rosemary was was the Kennedy child who waited for the bus with her siblings but the bus that picked her up had an elevator and wasnt quit as long as the other buses. At first the Kennedy family was embarrased and tried to hide Rosemary and eventually Joe Kennedy took Rosemary to get a frontal lobotomy. In the same way Illinois has been a lauging stock that the bigten has tried to hide. But eventually the Kennedy family under pressure were forced to except the little corky. And they rallied around her and praised her when she was able to accomplish anything. These accomplishments were usually nothing more than making it through a day with out crapping and pissing herself....and this leads us back to Illinois they were able to make it through a season with out pissing and crapping themselves so they were giving a little gift that the other big ten teams would not have recieved if they were in the same shows. I just want to know how many short buses it will take to get the entire Illini team to southern California.
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Post by mancowmilitia on Dec 3, 2007 11:38:41 GMT -4
USC is a 14 point favorite over Illinois again this shows that the BCS and Bowl selectors did not get this right. A two TD spread in a game that involves a team that was not guaranteed a spot is a joke. Once again you're showing the lack of knowledge that you're so famous for displaying. If the selectors got it wrong, then who should've taken Illinois' place? The only team with a right to complain may be Arizona State, but they lost 2 of their last 4 games (got toasted by USC in one) and barely beat 2 mediocre teams in the other 2. Contrast that to the Illini who won their last 4 games, including a win in Columbus, Ohio against the #1 team (at the time and now). And, in case your memory fails you, Illinois was a 15.5 point underdog in that game and we know what happened there. Not only will Illinois cover the spread, they have a very legit chance of beating USC in this game. I just wish the game was at a truly "neutral site" and not in USC's backyard. People have been doubting the Illini all year and they have continued to put those doubts to rest. If 1 play goes different in the Missouri and/or Iowa game (or they don't play 3/4 of their first game against Missouri with their backup QB), they are easily 10-2 or 11-1 and are being mentioned with OSU and LSU.
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Post by charliesarmy on Dec 3, 2007 12:37:08 GMT -4
USC is a 14 point favorite over Illinois again this shows that the BCS and Bowl selectors did not get this right. A two TD spread in a game that involves a team that was not guaranteed a spot is a joke. Once again you're showing the lack of knowledge that you're so famous for displaying. If the selectors got it wrong, then who should've taken Illinois' place? The only team with a right to complain may be Arizona State, but they lost 2 of their last 4 games (got toasted by USC in one) and barely beat 2 mediocre teams in the other 2. Contrast that to the Illini who won their last 4 games, including a win in Columbus, Ohio against the #1 team (at the time and now). And, in case your memory fails you, Illinois was a 15.5 point underdog in that game and we know what happened there. Not only will Illinois cover the spread, they have a very legit chance of beating USC in this game. I just wish the game was at a truly "neutral site" and not in USC's backyard. People have been doubting the Illini all year and they have continued to put those doubts to rest. If 1 play goes different in the Missouri and/or Iowa game (or they don't play 3/4 of their first game against Missouri with their backup QB), they are easily 10-2 or 11-1 and are being mentioned with OSU and LSU. Too easy!!!!!! Mancow who do you root for....stop being a Illini homer...people have not been doubting the Illini.... you are not even on the map... people dont care about you ..... only now when you give fuel to the fire for those who hate the BCS does your name get mentioned .... OSU is a joke and after the game no one talked about how good the Illini are they all talked about how overrated OSU was. You want to play up OSU but the number 1 team in the country is an underdog in the big game. OSU beat nobody this year and they are being used as an example of what is wrong with the BCS. Also you talk about what could have been and your could be 11-1 record....again you are showing you are nothing but a homer.... I was at the Penn State game and they looked piss poor to say the least. You also struggled against ball state..... you have to be kidding me. you are making a fool out of yourself and I am loving it. You are already making excuses...ahhh should they change the Rosebowl location to make it fair for you. You are the laughing stock of college football today .....enjoy it....and before you try to post again .... try to have a clue on what your talking about....
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Post by mancowmilitia on Dec 3, 2007 12:58:59 GMT -4
You are the laughing stock of college football today .....enjoy it....and before you try to post again .... try to have a clue on what your talking about.... OK - I'm up for a friendly wager. I'll take the Illini +14 any day and twice on Sunday (or in this case Tuesday). So - it's put up or shut up time. What's the wager gonna be?
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Post by charliesarmy on Dec 3, 2007 13:06:48 GMT -4
You are the laughing stock of college football today .....enjoy it....and before you try to post again .... try to have a clue on what your talking about.... OK - I'm up for a friendly wager. I'll take the Illini +14 any day and twice on Sunday (or in this case Tuesday). So - it's put up or shut up time. What's the wager gonna be? so you are not as confident as you were just a few posts ago when you said you could win outright.... grow a set sally I will not be wishy washy like you and will stick to my guns I will take that wager ..... what should the stakes be?
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Jan 2, 2008 2:27:22 GMT -4
2 for 2. Too bad the Rose Bowl is giving free hand jobs to the Big 10. Would have been fun to see UGA vs. USC and Mizzou/Illinois vs. Hawaii instead.
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Post by mancowmilitia on Jan 2, 2008 9:32:04 GMT -4
2 for 2. Too bad the Rose Bowl is giving free hand jobs to the Big 10. Would have been fun to see UGA vs. USC and Mizzou/Illinois vs. Hawaii instead. Your comment shows that you have absolutely no clue how the BCS selection process works. Once the NC game was determined to be Ohio St. vs LSU, Georgia had ZERO chance of playing in the Rose Bowl because of the SEC tie-in to the Sugar Bowl. So, if the Rose Bowl had attempted to take UGA, the Sugar Bowl would have vetoed it as they have the first shot at the next eligible SEC team after losing LSU to the NC game. I'll admit that my Illini laid an egg in the Rose Bowl. But, there were only 2 other teams that were eligible that could have taken the Illini's place: Boston College and Arizona State. BC barely beat the 8th place Big Ten team (Michigan State) in their game and ASU laid an egg vs. Texas. So, I don't see either of those as a better choice.
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Jan 2, 2008 11:16:50 GMT -4
2 for 2. Too bad the Rose Bowl is giving free hand jobs to the Big 10. Would have been fun to see UGA vs. USC and Mizzou/Illinois vs. Hawaii instead. Your comment shows that you have absolutely no clue how the BCS selection process works. Once the NC game was determined to be Ohio St. vs LSU, Georgia had ZERO chance of playing in the Rose Bowl because of the SEC tie-in to the Sugar Bowl. So, if the Rose Bowl had attempted to take UGA, the Sugar Bowl would have vetoed it as they have the first shot at the next eligible SEC team after losing LSU to the NC game. I'll admit that my Illini laid an egg in the Rose Bowl. But, there were only 2 other teams that were eligible that could have taken the Illini's place: Boston College and Arizona State. BC barely beat the 8th place Big Ten team (Michigan State) in their game and ASU laid an egg vs. Texas. So, I don't see either of those as a better choice. I know exactly how it works, but why does it have to work like that? I don't like the rule that only 2 teams from each conference can make the BCS. Illinois/Hawaii in the Sugar would have sold just as many tickets and would have been a much better game. How do you know the Sugar would have vetoed UGA going to the Rose? Are you on the selection committee? In the article below it says "Hawaii has nothing to be ashamed of, but the Warriors—who did deserve a BCS bowl bid—would be healthier and less humiliated right now if BCS bowl decision makers had put the Warriors in the Fiesta Bowl against Missouri (with the Orange Bowl pairing Oklahoma and Virginia Tech, in a deal that was suggested but then broken at the last minute). With that kind of sane scheduling, Mark Richt and the rest of the victorious Bulldogs would have been able to play USC." cfn.scout.com/2/716166.htmlI'm not saying that Illinois didn't deserve to get in given the current system. I think Illinois deserved it more than Kansas or Hawaii, but not Missouri who got hosed more than anybody. We got 2nd rate bowl games from a 2nd rate system, it could have been better.
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Post by politicianspock on Jan 2, 2008 12:04:02 GMT -4
Your comment shows that you have absolutely no clue how the BCS selection process works. Once the NC game was determined to be Ohio St. vs LSU, Georgia had ZERO chance of playing in the Rose Bowl because of the SEC tie-in to the Sugar Bowl. So, if the Rose Bowl had attempted to take UGA, the Sugar Bowl would have vetoed it as they have the first shot at the next eligible SEC team after losing LSU to the NC game. I'll admit that my Illini laid an egg in the Rose Bowl. But, there were only 2 other teams that were eligible that could have taken the Illini's place: Boston College and Arizona State. BC barely beat the 8th place Big Ten team (Michigan State) in their game and ASU laid an egg vs. Texas. So, I don't see either of those as a better choice. I know exactly how it works, but why does it have to work like that? I don't like the rule that only 2 teams from each conference can make the BCS. Illinois/Hawaii in the Sugar would have sold just as many tickets and would have been a much better game. How do you know the Sugar would have vetoed UGA going to the Rose? Are you on the selection committee? In the article below it says "Hawaii has nothing to be ashamed of, but the Warriors—who did deserve a BCS bowl bid—would be healthier and less humiliated right now if BCS bowl decision makers had put the Warriors in the Fiesta Bowl against Missouri (with the Orange Bowl pairing Oklahoma and Virginia Tech, in a deal that was suggested but then broken at the last minute). With that kind of sane scheduling, Mark Richt and the rest of the victorious Bulldogs would have been able to play USC." cfn.scout.com/2/716166.htmlI'm not saying that Illinois didn't deserve to get in given the current system. I think Illinois deserved it more than Kansas or Hawaii, but not Missouri who got hosed more than anybody. We got 2nd rate bowl games from a 2nd rate system, it could have been better. I completely agree 100% with your post... but your post does nothing to support your claim that the Rose Bowl gives free hand jobs to the Big 10. The Rose Bowl and the Big 10 are both part of an entire system that just sucks. It's a system that took Bowls and their relationships with conferences (which is all about money) and is an attempt to convert that into a seeding system for a 2 team playoff. The result is fans are robbed of any real playoff, and to get 1 and 2 seeded together, the other bowl games end up with some pretty crappy matchups. The fact is if the Rose Bowl had a matchup of USC/Georgia, there aren't two teams to be paired up with that the Sugar Bowl would consider to be a game as big as the Rose Bowl matchup. You have to remember that none of the BCS bowls will allow the other BCS bowls to have a "better game" than their game except for 1 vs. 2 matchup. The other BCS bowl games have to be on par with each other. If USC and Georgia were matched up in a BCS game, it would be by far the biggest BCS game outside of the OSU/LSU game. The other bowls would veto that in a second. And don't think they didn't talk about it before the selection occured.
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