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Post by Dan on Jun 9, 2008 14:57:32 GMT -4
You have to be a special kind of stupid to not recognize Phil Jackson's comments to the media for what they are. Great coaching. Do you think the FT disparity in Game 3 is going to be anything close to last night? In Game 2 nearly every questionable call seemed to go the Celtics way, in Game 3 don't be surprised when the roles are reversed. Phil Jackson being a classless moron after the Game 2 will help the Lakers win Game 3. You clowns might not like it but its the truth. Its one of the reasons why he is a 9 time champion and your team is preparing for the draft. I personally don't have any complaints about the refs. I do however expect the Lakers to get the benefit of the doubt on more questionable calls at home. Apparently home court advantage includes the refs this year in the playoffs. You act like "my team" has done nothing. They got jobbed this year by the league, Stern even mentioned something AGAIN yesterday on what a bad job the refs did in Game 4 of the Spurs-Lakers. "My team" has won 4 titles in the last 9 years, so I'm not sure why your takin a shot at them there. Phil Jackson hops on the hot teams that have star players and that's how he wins championships. I rooted for the Bulls when they were in the Finals when I was young, but that's still the way it is. I'm not talking just about Jackson in the Lakers case, that whole franchise is a greedy, self-loving, classless organization that is just featured in a beautiful part of the country so that's why they get so much love.
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Post by Dan on Jun 9, 2008 14:59:35 GMT -4
The roles will be reversed because the NBA wants to see the series go to 7 games, and that's not likely to happen if Boston goes up 3-0. It has nothing to do with Phil's whining. Agree and disagree. I think that the league is going to make this series go 7 ref-wise, they don't want this to turn into a simple 5 game series like its lookin from Boston's case. I think Phil's whining has a lot to do with it though, he's going to get plenty of calls because he's a "9 time champion" that has made a living of whining after games he loses so he can in turn win the next important games of the series. I think its the same old story here, to be honest.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Jun 9, 2008 15:02:18 GMT -4
Already saw that the ratings jumped 38%, so Im pretty sure this series is still going 6 or 7 games because of ratings and refs. Fuck the NBA, Fuck Clay Bennett, Fuck Oklahoma City.
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jun 9, 2008 15:17:08 GMT -4
You have to be a special kind of stupid to not recognize Phil Jackson's comments to the media for what they are. Great coaching. Do you think the FT disparity in Game 3 is going to be anything close to last night? In Game 2 nearly every questionable call seemed to go the Celtics way, in Game 3 don't be surprised when the roles are reversed. Phil Jackson being a classless moron after the Game 2 will help the Lakers win Game 3. You clowns might not like it but its the truth. Its one of the reasons why he is a 9 time champion and your team is preparing for the draft. I personally don't have any complaints about the refs. I do however expect the Lakers to get the benefit of the doubt on more questionable calls at home. Apparently home court advantage includes the refs this year in the playoffs. You act like "my team" has done nothing. They got jobbed this year by the league, Stern even mentioned something AGAIN yesterday on what a bad job the refs did in Game 4 of the Spurs-Lakers. "My team" has won 4 titles in the last 9 years, so I'm not sure why your takin a shot at them there. Phil Jackson hops on the hot teams that have star players and that's how he wins championships. I rooted for the Bulls when they were in the Finals when I was young, but that's still the way it is. I'm not talking just about Jackson in the Lakers case, that whole franchise is a greedy, self-loving, classless organization that is just featured in a beautiful part of the country so that's why they get so much love. LMAO Jesus Christ Spurs fan. Where the hell were you last year when Stern suspended Amare Stoudamire? The league already had a perfect opportunity to give a more exciting star driven team to boost ratings a pass on the rules and nobody would have blamed them. You would think that decision alone would have tempered your Los Angeles Lakers jealousy. You are still whining about one single call in a game consistently poorly officiated in a series that ended in 5 games. Give me a break. You have to be kidding me with this holier than thou shtick as well. Which team in the league is not greedy or self loving? Classless? Which team was it that leveled an opposing team star player in garbage time resulting in multiple suspensions? Which team had their scrub role player take a cheap shot to an injured players back who had been killing them in the series to the delight to the home crowd that chanted his name afterwards? The Spurs flop and whine about calls with the best of them. Was it classy for Popavich to publicly embarrass the Memphis GM for the Gasol trade earlier in the year especially considering he essentially gave away Scola to the Rockets for free? If there is any team that is justified in labeling the Lakers as classless it sure as hell isn't the Spurs.
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Post by Dan on Jun 9, 2008 15:48:11 GMT -4
You act like "my team" has done nothing. They got jobbed this year by the league, Stern even mentioned something AGAIN yesterday on what a bad job the refs did in Game 4 of the Spurs-Lakers. "My team" has won 4 titles in the last 9 years, so I'm not sure why your takin a shot at them there. Phil Jackson hops on the hot teams that have star players and that's how he wins championships. I rooted for the Bulls when they were in the Finals when I was young, but that's still the way it is. I'm not talking just about Jackson in the Lakers case, that whole franchise is a greedy, self-loving, classless organization that is just featured in a beautiful part of the country so that's why they get so much love. LMAO Jesus Christ Spurs fan. Where the hell were you last year when Stern suspended Amare Stoudamire? The league already had a perfect opportunity to give a more exciting star driven team to boost ratings a pass on the rules and nobody would have blamed them. You would think that decision alone would have tempered your Los Angeles Lakers jealousy. You are still whining about one single call in a game consistently poorly officiated in a series that ended in 5 games. Give me a break. You have to be kidding me with this holier than thou shtick as well. Which team in the league is not greedy or self loving? Classless? Which team was it that leveled an opposing team star player in garbage time resulting in multiple suspensions? Which team had their scrub role player take a cheap shot to an injured players back who had been killing them in the series to the delight to the home crowd that chanted his name afterwards? The Spurs flop and whine about calls with the best of them. Was it classy for Popavich to publicly embarrass the Memphis GM for the Gasol trade earlier in the year? I meant to say the Lakers and their fans are equally classless. Pop going after the Memphis GM was like EVERYBODY (George Karl, + all NBA execs out West besides Memphis and L.A.) was going after him. That is the most lopsided trade in NBA history, its what got the Lakers to the Finals this year. The Spurs aren't Robert Horry, Horry hipchecked Nash, but Nash used his acting talent to fly his body into the boards, and does the rule book say you can't be on the court? No, it says during a fight on the court players have to remain seated on the bench. Jesus, that rule has been in place even when the New York-Miami brawls happened in the 90's, players got suspended, its the rules. Jealous of the Lakers? They haven't won a title in six years, they have a star player who is as much a hypocrite as he is greedy and selfish, I'm not jealous of people who love themselves ten times more than they should. One single call is a big call. Brent Barry should've gone to the line for two. He had 23 points that game, he could've tied the game seeing that he is an exceptional free throw shooter. You would be whining your ass off if Manu jumped into Kobe like that and there was no call. All NBA games and NBA playoff series are poorly officiated. If your claiming that particular series was reffed poorly for the Lakers, I have to laugh, because Tim Duncan got as much respect as Loren Woods would've gotten in that series. Then again, your are a Lakers fan, and IMO most Lakers fans hate their team when they suck like three years ago when that stadium was hard to fill, but now, oh man, its party city again.
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jun 9, 2008 16:10:51 GMT -4
The most classless thing Laker fan has done lately chant DUI at Carmelo Anthony. The most classless thing Spurs fan has done lately is chant "HORRY HORRY HORRY" after he injured David West with a back pick. Celebrating a players injury vs celebrating a players criminal troubles. I asked if all of the above was classy. You did not answer the question. You are clearly jealous of the Lakers being highly regarded as a franchise. It was made pretty clear in that nonsensical and hypocritical "classless, self-loving and greedy" rant. The call before was just as big. Fisher's shot hit the rim. The Lakers would have a fresh 24 clock and the Spurs would have been forced to foul. Eventually you will throw out enough bullshit that you will be actually be right by pure chance. 2005 98.6% 2008 98.5 % sports.espn.go.com/nba/attendance?sort=home_pct&year=2008&seasonType=2Unfortunately now is not one of those times.
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Post by Dan on Jun 9, 2008 16:19:27 GMT -4
The most classless thing Laker fan has done lately chant DUI at Carmelo Anthony. The most classless thing Spurs fan has done lately is chant "HORRY HORRY HORRY" after he injured David West with a back pick. Celebrating a players injury vs celebrating a players criminal troubles. I asked if all of the above was classy. You did not answer the question. You are clearly jealous of the Lakers being highly regarded as a franchise. It was made pretty clear in that nonsensical and hypocritical "classless, self-loving and greedy" rant. The call before was just as big. Fisher's shot hit the rim. The Lakers would have a fresh 24 clock and the Spurs would have been forced to foul. Eventually you will throw out enough bullshit that you will be actually be right by pure chance. 2005 98.6% 2008 98.5 % sports.espn.go.com/nba/attendance?sort=home_pct&year=2008&seasonType=2Unfortunately now is not one of those times. A. Again, I'll say this slowly. Fisher's shot hitting the rim wouldn't of mattered if they would've called the 3 travels Kobe made on that possession while Manu was harrassing him. B. I'll say this once again slowly, Robert Horry isn't the entire Spurs team. C. I guess your still not getting it, the Lakers are a franchise full of terrible character players and hypocritical, adultering, lying, thieving, and backstabbing stars (that includes Shaq). D. I'm a Spurs fan, why would I be jealous of a team that hasn't won a championship in six years when my team has won 3 in those last six years, also knowing it could've been four if certain NBA f**k-ups didn't happen. E. I'm done debating with you. You have your team, I have mine. But to say I'm jealous of your team, that's when I know I'm dealing with an idiot. Stern spurs more foul talk about "non-call" against Brent Barry Wire Reports Monday, June 09, 2008 Speaking in Boston on Sunday, NBA commissioner David Stern said the league "made a terrible mistake" in the way it handled the non-call at the end of Game 4 of the Western Conference finals involving San Antonio's Brent Barry and the Lakers' Derek Fisher. "On something like that, where people are asking the question on a very important play, we gave an honest answer to a direct question," Stern said Sunday, before Game 2 of the NBA Finals. "But we didn't rush out and hold a press conference on it." The league decided to comment - where it acknowledged that a foul should've been called on the play - Stern said, because "the reality today, with the benefit of 18 different angles and slow-mo, there are things that you can know that are unknowable in the speed of the game. And if everybody knows it, it doesn't seem like a great idea for us to deny it." Stern said the league discussed the play with the officials involved before responding to reporters' inquiries, and he didn't feel like commenting on the situation undercut anybody's authority. "It's sort of like, if we don't say anything, we're covering up; we say something, we're undercutting," Stern said. "I accept the fact that we can't win on that one." Interestingly, one team insider who was asked about the league's admission of guilt the day following the incident, said most of the Spurs were privately left wondering "Now what?" after the NBA's comments. "We all felt like, do we get to shoot the freethrows now?" The Spurs went on to lose the series against the Lakers in 5 games.
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Post by Jogo on Jun 9, 2008 16:37:41 GMT -4
I just think that people mention FT disparity like it's supposed to be equal or at least close in every game. People that saw the game last night saw that the Celtics were attacking the rim much harder than the Lakers were so it's normal that the Celtics got much more FTs. Everyone also saw that the Lakers could have gotten a few more foul shots, mostly from Gasol but if every call was made, there would still be a FT dispartity. If Powe got more FTs than every Laker together like Phil said, it's because Powe attacked the rim harder than all the Lakers did. It's obvious that what Phil is trying to do it put pressure on the refs for the games in LA but if putting pressure on refs to try to get refs help is great coaching I guess what Horry did to Nash is great basketball. Phil is indeed a great coach but for what he pratices with his teams not for his public coments.
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jun 9, 2008 16:50:08 GMT -4
You know you are starting to get desperate when you begin whining about uncalled traveling violations 25 feet from the basket. Since when has the NBA ever made that call on anybody?
LMAO I'm surprised you didn't just call him a true Laker at heart. Lets just pretend he doesn't exists so you can continue with your ridiculous rant on class.
The built up jealousy rears its ugly head in the form of a Shaq reference. Back in the Shaq era the Lakers routinely dominated the Spurs and made no apologies in doing so. Your attitude is clearly the reflection of that. If it makes you feel better to believe a professional athlete throwing on a Spurs jersey makes them morally a good person and one throwing on a Lakers jersey makes them evil then knock yourself out. You come across like a naive child though.
Because despite how accomplished they may been they never have received the love from the media or average fan as the Lakers three peat championship teams. To the average fan they are simply boring. Duncan does not get the proper recognition as an all time great and Ginobli can't even get an all star bid despite being one of the best guards in the league. Most people don't even consider them a true dynasty and it annoys you. If only the rest of the world saw the Spurs as the embodiments of class and teamwork as you see them to be.
I did not realize we were debating. I was just correcting your misrepresentation of the facts and revolutionists history. Its a shame Tiago Splitter is staying overseas. I was looking forward to the Lakers busting the Spurs in the WCF again next year but without him I doubt they even get that far.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Jun 9, 2008 22:56:07 GMT -4
You guys need to fucking grow up, your arguing over fucking stupid calls. The Refs blow, there way inconsistent, and with the tim donahgy thing, everybody thinks there cheating because who said they weren't before.
Sonics are one of the longest tenured teams in the league being in Seattle for 41 fucking years, all you bitches can do is argue about retarded fouls, get a life.
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jun 9, 2008 23:21:14 GMT -4
I hate to break it to you One Time but very few people outside of Seattle give a shit about the Sonics moving no matter how many times you post the sob story in completely unrelated threads.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Jun 9, 2008 23:28:05 GMT -4
Well I just hate that a team moves then comes back in like 5 years with a retarded name,lol.
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Post by J-Sav on Jun 13, 2008 0:00:57 GMT -4
Damn Lakers fans. That one gotta hurt.
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Post by mancowmilitia on Jun 13, 2008 8:32:24 GMT -4
I love watching Kobe fail.
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Post by phdsims on Jun 13, 2008 10:32:39 GMT -4
you love watching kobe fail i love watching pau flail
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