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Post by kfilament on Jan 4, 2009 15:12:56 GMT -4
call it dumb, whatever, i dont care. like i said, as an avid NFL fan who has no attachment to either team, i was watching the game, and thought it was a good one, and to have a playoff game determined with one team getting the ball, scoring, and game over, it just leaves a lame feel to the game to me. Now if the giants win next weekend in OT after winning the toss i will be pumped, but as a non-interested party it seems stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 16:38:43 GMT -4
It would be like the NBA having random draws to shoot FT's in OT for the win, or shooting half court shots, its just stupid , and is not true to the game. The college OT system is closer to that than the NFL system is. In the NFL at least they play football to determine the winner in overtime. In college they play a weird version of the game where punts, kickoffs, and field position are completely irrelevant.
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Post by Jogo on Jan 4, 2009 19:00:58 GMT -4
I don't follow the NFL that much but yesterday I was watching that game and I have to agree with kfilament. I didn't even know the rule but I was expecting OT to be one full extra period. That made sense to me. So when the 1st team to score won I felt it wasn't weird and not very fair. Sure the argument that the Colts could have played better defense and get the ball back is valid but then again why not give them one more offensive chance to show they could do the same and also score? Isn't the game about defense AND offense?
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jan 4, 2009 19:48:59 GMT -4
I don't follow the NFL that much but yesterday I was watching that game and I have to agree with kfilament. I didn't even know the rule but I was expecting OT to be one full extra period. That made sense to me. So when the 1st team to score won I felt it wasn't weird and not very fair. Sure the argument that the Colts could have played better defense and get the ball back is valid but then again why not give them one more offensive chance to show they could do the same and also score? Isn't the game about defense AND offense? The games would be too long and it would increase the chance of injury when players are playing tired. No sport is perfect. At least they don't end the game with something stupid like penalty kicks.
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Post by kfilament on Jan 4, 2009 22:14:10 GMT -4
well to me, its crazy for the colts season to have ended with peyton manning not even having a chance. I guess the alternative is to just play the entire 15 min, or make it 10. NOt sudden death. as far as college taking out kicking and punting, the NFL took out the entire colts offense and chargers D, is that better?
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jan 4, 2009 22:19:58 GMT -4
well to me, its crazy for the colts season to have ended with peyton manning not even having a chance. I guess the alternative is to just play the entire 15 min, or make it 10. NOt sudden death. as far as college taking out kicking and punting, the NFL took out the entire colts offense and chargers D, is that better? Thats the thing. He did have a chance. He had the ball and the lead and was told to get two first downs to win the game.
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Post by Jogo on Jan 4, 2009 22:46:48 GMT -4
That was in regulation. In regulation both teams had plenty of chances to wrap it up but they didn't, which lead to overtime which lead to the discussion taking place. Of course it's a pointless discussion with you considering your homer nature since now that I read the whole thread it's clear SD is your team and wouldn't suprise me the fact that they won is reason why you are on that side of the argument. Had it been the other way around and it wouldn't suprise anyone you saying the sudden death OT system wasn't so great. Still it doesn't make sense for you to be defensive because it's clear to me the discussion isn't about the fairness of the win which no one questions but the fairness of the overtime system. Like you point out very well, it's not as stupid as the penalty kicks one but at least in soccer they play 30 extra minutes before deciding to call it a day and go to the unfair penalty kicks system.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 23:03:18 GMT -4
well to me, its crazy for the colts season to have ended with peyton manning not even having a chance. I guess the alternative is to just play the entire 15 min, or make it 10. NOt sudden death. as far as college taking out kicking and punting, the NFL took out the entire colts offense and chargers D, is that better? He had 60 minutes of chances...
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jan 4, 2009 23:18:16 GMT -4
That was in regulation. In regulation both teams had plenty of chances to wrap it up but they didn't, which lead to overtime which lead to the discussion taking place. Of course it's a pointless discussion with you considering your homer nature since now that I read the whole thread it's clear SD is your team and wouldn't suprise me the fact that they won is reason why you are on that side of the argument. Had it been the other way around and it wouldn't suprise anyone you saying the sudden death OT system wasn't so great. Still it doesn't make sense for you to be defensive because it's clear to me the discussion isn't about the fairness of the win which no one questions but the fairness of the overtime system. Like you point out very well, it's not as stupid as the penalty kicks one but at least in soccer they play 30 extra minutes before deciding to call it a day and go to the unfair penalty kicks system. I'm a homer for overtime? LOL! Are you serious dude? You already admitted you don't even watch NFL football. The overtime system for the playoffs has been the same since 1941! The college overtime system is lame and gimmicky and the team that gets the ball second has a huge advantage anyway. As usual you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Post by Jogo on Jan 4, 2009 23:34:42 GMT -4
No. You are a homer in every argument we had so it wouldn't suprise me if it was the case here too. Maybe I'm wrong. Point is I make pretty good points for someone who has no idea what he is talking about. Just because it's in place since 1941 it doesn't make it good. Penalty kicks are in place since around that date too and they are as stupid as it gets. I'm not the one mentioning the college system. I just think it would be better to play like 10/15 extra minutes with both teams having a chance. Or at least give both teams equal shots on offense. Like the case here if SD scores on the 1st possession, give the other team one more chance to do the same. Even in the stupid penalty kicks both teams take the same number of kicks. Just my opinion though. No need to get emotional.
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jan 4, 2009 23:44:32 GMT -4
No. You are a homer in every argument we had so it wouldn't suprise me if it was the case here too. Maybe I'm wrong. Point is I make pretty good points for someone who has no idea what he is talking about. Just because it's in place since 1941 it doesn't make it good. Penalty kicks are in place since around that date too and they are as stupid as it gets. I'm not the one mentioning the college system. I just think it would be better to play like 10/15 extra minutes with both teams having a chance. Or at least give both teams equal shots on offense. Like the case here if SD scores on the 1st possession, give the other team one more chance to do the same. Even in the stupid penalty kicks both teams take the same number of kicks. Just my opinion though. No need to get emotional. Its just not realistic. If two teams tied after 60 minutes more likely than not they are going to tie after an additional 10 to 15 minutes. Add on a sudden death period and you are looking at a 5 hour game. Check out next weeks injury report for all the teams left in the playoffs and you will see why thats a bad idea.
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Post by BeastModeCowboy on Jan 9, 2009 13:03:01 GMT -4
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Post by Steve on Jan 11, 2009 17:45:03 GMT -4
A nice dismantling of the former champs...
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Post by kfilament on Jan 11, 2009 19:38:11 GMT -4
both titans and giants lay eggs..ugghh...i am pretty sure there is no team like less than the eagles. i am rooting for the buzz saw now.
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Post by Steve on Jan 11, 2009 20:23:41 GMT -4
both titans and giants lay eggs..ugghh...i am pretty sure there is no team like less than the eagles. i am rooting for the buzz saw now. Titans lost because of turnovers...they dominated, but turnovers killed them. And the Giants just completely suck without Plax...say what you want, but he opened up everything. Eagles have a great D and there Offense is better for the pure fact that McNabb is better than Eli.
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