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Post by cupcrazy01 on Apr 23, 2009 12:21:39 GMT -4
Um, the reason I don't believe in it is because I am a factual person and I can't fathom any of it, especially a book written by men that none of the men ever met any of the people in the book. This is just plain wrong. Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible, known as the Pentateuch. Moses, as leader of the Israelites, was quite familiar with the 800,000 or so who left Egypt in the Exodus. Joshua, author of the sixth book of the Bible (yes, named "Joshua"), was Moses' protoge' and chosen successor as leader of the Israelites. He, like Moses, writes plenty about people with whom he was quite familiar. Solomon was quite familiar with David, seeing as that was his father, and some of the prophets were contemporaries of each other. In the New Testament, you have Matthew and John, two disciples of Christ, who lived with Jesus for the last few years of His life on earth. John, of course, also wrote I John, II John and III John, as well as Revelation. Luke and Mark were contemporaries of the disciples, and Luke of course was a close friend of the Apostle Paul, about whom he writes in the book of Acts. Paul writes letters (epistles) to churches that he himself visited and/or planted. James was Jesus' half-brother. Peter, of course, was a disciple. There is plenty of unity and familiarity among the authors of these books.
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Post by The Allen Factor on Aug 14, 2009 20:45:22 GMT -4
Interesting topic.
I don't buy that pond scum (or whatever the latest abiogenesis hypotheses is) plus 3.8 billion years worth of genetic copying errors will get you Albert Einstein. To me, that's the most far-fetched, dangerous (devaluing of life) idea ever. It's frightening that it passes for "rational thought" and "science" nowadays. I also believe that the majority of atheists are either ignorant or self-deluded which I will elaborate on if anyone's interested.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2009 21:53:27 GMT -4
Interesting topic. I don't buy that pond scum (or whatever the latest abiogenesis hypotheses is) plus 3.8 billion years worth of genetic copying errors will get you Albert Einstein. To me, that's the most far-fetched, dangerous (devaluing of life) idea ever. It's frightening that it passes for "rational thought" and "science" nowadays. What makes you think you know more than the leading scientists who have dedicated their lives to researching this topic? Please do. And I don't want anecdotal evidence.
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Post by The Allen Factor on Aug 15, 2009 6:18:59 GMT -4
What makes you think you know more than the leading scientists who have dedicated their lives to researching this topic? What makes you think the "leading scientists" know anything about the origins of life? There's a new hypotheses seemingly every other week. They're shooting blanks. Decade after decade, millions of man hours from brilliant minds and what do they have to show for it? Little to nothing. Yet I'm suppose to accept that it happened by "chance"? Get real. If life did form via chance, it would most certainly qualify as a miracle of the highest magnitude: Please do. And I don't want anecdotal evidence. See above. That's just the origin of life. There's still the issue of the diversification of life, for which Darwinian processes have laid an egg. If it weren't for the fact that Darwinian evolution is more or less an atheistic religion whose followers are irrationally committed, it would've been buried next to astrology a long time ago. Then of course there's the biggest issue of all - the universe's existence/formation. Why is it that the universe operates under a precise set of guidelines, guidelines which make it both relatively ordered and habitable? Again, am I suppose to accept that it was just one big lucky roll of the dice? When you take all of this into consideration, the purpose behind all of reality becomes so obvious as to be self-evident. That you and people like you deny this is due to your own personal "issues", not rationality nor logic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2009 12:09:09 GMT -4
What makes you think the "leading scientists" know anything about the origins of life? There's a new hypotheses seemingly every other week. They're shooting blanks. Decade after decade, millions of man hours from brilliant minds and what do they have to show for it? Little to nothing. Yet I'm suppose to accept that it happened by "chance"? Get real. Because they have studied it using every fact we currently know about the universe. Of course we don't know everything about the universe, so whenever we learn more the theories change. Of course they aren't perfect theories, but going by what we have they are the best we can do until we know more. I'm pretty sure most atheists don't claim to 100% know the origin of life (unlike most religions) because it is impossible to know the origin of life with our current understanding of the universe. As for evolution, again, it's not perfect - but it's the best we can do with what we have in front of us. It takes a lot of facts, and pieces all of those facts together to form a theory (and a pretty good one, if you know anything about science). You pose a lot of questions that cannot be answered, but instead of trying to rationally think about what the answers might be, you just decide that since your brain can't comprehend some of what the leading scientists are saying then it MUST be a creator - and I'm not saying that it isn't a creator, but the only evidence that points to a creator is "there's lots of stuff that we can't explain." May I ask, which creator do you believe in? Jesus, the Greek God Chaos, Xenu?
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Post by Seattle Slough on Aug 15, 2009 16:08:44 GMT -4
What makes you think you know more than the leading scientists who have dedicated their lives to researching this topic? What makes you think the "leading scientists" know anything about the origins of life? There's a new hypotheses seemingly every other week. They're shooting blanks. Decade after decade, millions of man hours from brilliant minds and what do they have to show for it? Little to nothing. Yet I'm suppose to accept that it happened by "chance"? Get real. If life did form via chance, it would most certainly qualify as a miracle of the highest magnitude: Please do. And I don't want anecdotal evidence. See above. That's just the origin of life. There's still the issue of the diversification of life, for which Darwinian processes have laid an egg. If it weren't for the fact that Darwinian evolution is more or less an atheistic religion whose followers are irrationally committed, it would've been buried next to astrology a long time ago. Then of course there's the biggest issue of all - the universe's existence/formation. Why is it that the universe operates under a precise set of guidelines, guidelines which make it both relatively ordered and habitable? Again, am I suppose to accept that it was just one big lucky roll of the dice? When you take all of this into consideration, the purpose behind all of reality becomes so obvious as to be self-evident. That you and people like you deny this is due to your own personal "issues", not rationality nor logic. At least scientists are actually trying to figure the origins of life, instead of believing some fairytale that was written thousands of years ago, translated over 100+ languages easy, and apparently everybody has their own rendition of it, because there are easily over five different versions of someone's different religion. Then there is this thing that all religious people say when you can't prove anything either, "You just have to have faith." Faith in what? Most of the death in the world is because of religions! So, I think you guys can stop lying to yourselves, care about the world and your life at hand, smoke some weed, care about the people around you more, and lets just live happy fucking lives.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 0:05:45 GMT -4
ya, just thought id share what I wrote, and I will talk about Jesus anywhere I go, because if you don't personally know Jesus Christ, then your gonna go to hell. I really don't want anyone to have to experience that. I really don't care what people say about it, but I will continue to talk, nothing will make me stop. ban
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