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Post by J-Sav on Apr 16, 2010 16:02:00 GMT -4
Same as Kobe. It was consenting sex until after. There no way to say you defend Kobe, but not Big Ben.
And it's not about his status. It's about being a man, and understand what women are capable of. Too many of my friends and family have been in trouble with the law because of the words of women, that are far from the truth, but they know they'll get the sympathy because they're a woman. I'm not saying his actions aren't questionable, but I will hold off on the sexual assualt.
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Post by jellis on Apr 16, 2010 16:22:22 GMT -4
you seem to have serious women issues, reading the reports on this made my skin crawl. I know people who went to HS with him and college with him and he has been a flaming asshole all along who always thought that since he could throw a football he was entitled to what he wanted. There werent stories of rape back then but there where stories about him thinking if he wanted something then he should get it no matter the cost or the effect on others.
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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Apr 16, 2010 16:47:40 GMT -4
Same as Kobe. It was consenting sex until after. There no way to say you defend Kobe, but not Big Ben. And it's not about his status. It's about being a man, and understand what women are capable of. Too many of my friends and family have been in trouble with the law because of the words of women, that are far from the truth, but they know they'll get the sympathy because they're a woman. I'm not saying his actions aren't questionable, but I will hold off on the sexual assault. It's a shame that your past and your friends past has skewed your vision to where you can't see right from wrong, when it's standing in front of your face. I hope that one day you will have a daughter, so that you will see how women (more than any race, or gender) need society to start having their back and not lump them in with a small group of women who give them a bad name. (I hope that hits home to you as a black man. Since we've been labeled thugs, pimps, dead beat dads, and alcoholics because of our skin, and not because of who we really are) The system isn't always right, but your first instincts usually are. If your instincts think that Ben is a good guy, who did nothing...... then you should follow them. My instincts tell me something very different. As for the Kobe thing. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!
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Post by J-Sav on Apr 16, 2010 21:56:37 GMT -4
Wow man, you're way off about me, and you took this way too personal. I'll just leave it. We're not gonna see eye to eye on this one. (btw, as a black man, you should give someone the benefit of the doubt because you know the system can go against you.)
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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Apr 17, 2010 1:34:23 GMT -4
The system can go against you? If I show you the same pattern twice, at what point do you start to believe it then? It's one thing to judge with no proof, it's another when the person shows you who they are. Dude is a sleeze ball, and it's sad that you can't see that.
Your entitled to your opinion. I just hope when he does this again, you will then start to believe that not all girls are liars, and are out for peoples money. And trust me, this will happen again one day. Maybe not this year, but it will happen again one day.
And you wonder why I take this so seriously? What if I told you that my fiancee was raped by her teacher as a child? And that she was scared to tell people, because she didn't think anyone would believe her. And because of people like you, he did it again. And was later arrested, and my fiancee had to testify 6 years later in her life. She did that so someone would believe the next victim, and not judge woman as liars!
You need to get in check with reality. Their are some bad people out there!
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Post by Jake From Miami on Apr 17, 2010 14:20:49 GMT -4
There are some "bad people" out there, but women can say whatever they want after sex. That bitch opened her legs, said come on in and more than likely during that process had dollar signs floating around in her brain.
How it went down is ugly but I've seen crazier shit go down in clubs. I'm white but a lot of my close friends are black. I know how the system works and I dont like it anymore than you do J-Savage. Skin color doesnt matter as much as being a high profile athlete though. Most of America's best athletes are....well....black.....so if a woman wants to get some free money they go after those high profile athletes, not just the black ones.
I think most of us have been in the "I'm drunk and I need to get laid" state. Big Ben was there, obviously. And he got owned by this bitch. The police report said after Ben "exposed himself" she ran to the bathroom. Listen....If i was a woman and I was about to get raped I would be screaming bloody fucking murder and I wouldnt be running into a dead end room in the club, I'd be out that bitch.
Bottom line, if youre shit is in ANY woman they can call it whatever they want afterwards.
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Post by Erbes on Apr 17, 2010 15:10:56 GMT -4
First of all, why is this superstar quarterback who could probably get any good looking, upstanding girl, hanging around Middle-of-nowhere, Georgia picking up trailer trash girls? I don't get it.
Second of all, this is guy is a fucking moron. Why is he whipping his dick out in the middle of a club? Get a life.
Third of all, I understand the girl was probably not too bright, but still no means no and if she's telling the truth then that is rape.
Fourth of all, suspend the shit out of this guy. This is like the 3rd time that he has done this and thats what the public knows of. No doubt there is a ton of other girls who have been victimized.
I think there's a bit of difference with Kobe as well. Wasn't the girl Kobe raped a straight up stripper? Like she had 3 different DNA samples in her hoo-ha when they tested, right? That sounds more to me like a gold digger than this does.
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Post by boston09 on Apr 17, 2010 18:49:37 GMT -4
yeah it's the 3rd time with Ben. It's one thing to have sex but it's all wrong what Ben and his security did. I know damn well the security guards went out in the bar and found the type of girl ben likes.
What is wrong by any account is when Ben pulled out his cock. He said something like dont worry its ok. She said no how many times? She needs to find a top Lawyer and sue the crap out of Ben! I don't care who the fuck you are, you NEVER do the things Ben has done. If it was one of us we would have been charged with rape and in Jail.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2010 23:09:19 GMT -4
There are some "bad people" out there, but women can say whatever they want after sex. That bitch opened her legs, said come on in and more than likely during that process had dollar signs floating around in her brain. How it went down is ugly but I've seen crazier shit go down in clubs. I'm white but a lot of my close friends are black. I know how the system works and I dont like it anymore than you do J-Savage. Skin color doesnt matter as much as being a high profile athlete though. Most of America's best athletes are....well....black.....so if a woman wants to get some free money they go after those high profile athletes, not just the black ones. I think most of us have been in the "I'm drunk and I need to get laid" state. Big Ben was there, obviously. And he got owned by this bitch. The police report said after Ben "exposed himself" she ran to the bathroom. Listen....If i was a woman and I was about to get raped I would be screaming bloody fucking murder and I wouldnt be running into a dead end room in the club, I'd be out that bitch. Bottom line, if youre shit is in ANY woman they can call it whatever they want afterwards. That's a valid argument when it's the guy's first offense, but Roethlisberger has done this time and time again.
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Post by Dan on Apr 17, 2010 23:23:19 GMT -4
You don't know him and he is presumed innocent until proven guilty. And you have to question the women's motives - a famous guy with a lot of money is an inviting target, especially after a night of alcohol. This is my philosophy...why would Ben have to sexually assault and girls, for god sakes look at the man, I'm sure he can get any girl he wants. The accuser has a boyfriend and I think someone found out she had sex with Ben and didn't want to get caught so she made this whole story up. You think you're going in to a bathroom stall just to make out? And why would her friend let her go? Too many questions for me. Just like Kobe, I'm giving Ben the benefit of the doubt. There are lots of famous guys with money in the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, etc but how many of them have been accused of sexual assault twice in a year? Not too many. The first time around I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not this time though. This captures my viewpoint on this issue as well. I've already discussed it plenty elsewhere (mainly on facebook) but I really hope people don't forget about this and just let it simply "go away".
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Apr 19, 2010 10:54:41 GMT -4
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Post by BeastModeCowboy on Apr 19, 2010 11:05:27 GMT -4
LOL@KD
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Post by J-Sav on Apr 21, 2010 21:08:28 GMT -4
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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Apr 21, 2010 21:24:12 GMT -4
The fact that the NFL suspended him for 4-6 games after doing thier own investigation is my thinking! And the fact that the Steelers reccomended the suspension tells me a lot
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Post by BeastModeCowboy on Apr 21, 2010 22:25:30 GMT -4
Here is how I look at it. 1. Big Has Ben has no game at all, because he has a track record of having to get a bitch drunk to get some ass.
2. Big has Ben must not be that Big.....
3. The motorcycle accident fucked him up really bad......
4. Big Has Ben does not understand acronyms, how do you get a girl wearing a tag saying DTF accusing you of rape?.....Maybe next time she needs to do stick figures and he will get the point that she is ready to fuck...........
5. Maybe if big has ben would have gotten a room then no one would be talking about his urinal escapades....Cheap ass mother fucker......
6. Big has ben has bad taste.....I mean he is a 2 time superbowl champion and look at the bitches he been fucking......Romo has no rings and has fucked Carrie Underwood and that one crazy bitch, Reggie Bush is fucking Kim Kardashian, Tom Brady has a super model and Hank Basskett has a play boy bunny.....Come on Man!!!!
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