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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Jul 21, 2008 13:38:29 GMT -4
hoopshype.com/So are role players going overseas to play that far fetched?
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Post by greatmustachio on Jul 23, 2008 14:25:32 GMT -4
Well, Childress is kind of a loss for the Hawks. He could bring some power from the bench when needed. But I would not call it a trend. Allthough some more player like Childress would help to make Basketball more popular here in Europe
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jul 23, 2008 14:31:56 GMT -4
Gotta give props to his agent and Childress for thinking outside of the box. H gets paid more to be a bigger star in the Euroleagues and pretty much can leave whenever he wants.
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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Jul 23, 2008 14:36:54 GMT -4
Could be a trend if HS seniors start going, and good NBA role players follow as well. Look at Brandon Jennings signing with a Euro team, instead of being a star at Arizona. Boston Nachbar, and Primo Breezec have both signed with international teams.
These International teams have money (without a hardcap), and will overpay for good NBA talent. You won't see a Lebron go, but you could see guys like Childress going and getting more money over see's then they would here
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jul 23, 2008 14:40:26 GMT -4
I know Jennings made a great P.R move, but lets get real. The major reason why Jennings is going to Europe to ball is he failed to academically qualify for Arizona.
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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Jul 23, 2008 15:10:46 GMT -4
I know Jennings made a great P.R move, but lets get real. The major reason why Jennings is going to Europe to ball is he failed to academically qualify for Arizona. Agreed! However, now that it has been done whats to stop the next kid from getting paid for a year? Get treated like a king, and get endorsments. Hell Damon Jones make 5 mil just on a shoe deal from China. I think if guys see it's not so bad to go overseas for a season, instead of sitting in college these guys will start to go
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Post by Jogo on Jul 23, 2008 15:33:07 GMT -4
Especially with the Dollar so weak compared to the Euro. I think that's the main weapon right now from European teams. They didn't get more money all of the sudden. Their money just started to worth more compared to NBA teams money. Going to the NBA (or back to it) these days is just from the pleasure of playing in the best basketball league in the world. It's not as much for financial reasons anymore.
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jul 23, 2008 16:15:23 GMT -4
I know Jennings made a great P.R move, but lets get real. The major reason why Jennings is going to Europe to ball is he failed to academically qualify for Arizona. Agreed! However, now that it has been done whats to stop the next kid from getting paid for a year? Get treated like a king, and get endorsments. Hell Damon Jones make 5 mil just on a shoe deal from China. I think if guys see it's not so bad to go overseas for a season, instead of sitting in college these guys will start to go I think just from a future marketing perspective its pretty short sighted. With guys like Andrea Bargnani and Boris Diaw cracking the top ten in NBA jerseys sold in Europe it seems like their support for NBA players is heavily related to national pride. Hired guns don't get that same benefit. The NCAA tournament gives players great exposure in the American market and given that a lot of big name programs recruit internationally I would assume the rest of the world follows the tournament as well. If they don't they are missing out. The average NBA fan isn't going to watch Euroleague games all of a sudden.
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Post by Beast Mode (lilsims) on Jul 23, 2008 16:29:13 GMT -4
Agreed! However, now that it has been done whats to stop the next kid from getting paid for a year? Get treated like a king, and get endorsments. Hell Damon Jones make 5 mil just on a shoe deal from China. I think if guys see it's not so bad to go overseas for a season, instead of sitting in college these guys will start to go I think just from a future marketing perspective its pretty short sighted. With guys like Andrea Bargnani and Boris Diaw cracking the top ten in NBA jerseys sold in Europe it seems like their support for NBA players is heavily related to national pride. Hired guns don't get that same benefit. The NCAA tournament gives players great exposure in the American market and given that a lot of big name programs recruit internationally I would assume the rest of the world follows the tournament as well. If they don't they are missing out. The average NBA fan isn't going to watch Euroleague games all of a sudden. No but those Euro fans butying Diaw jerseys now have new fav players in Childress and Jennings to support. The NBA will never go broke, but with the currency as it is the Euro leagues will be relivent in being able to overpay guys to go and play overseas for the money. Guys falling out of the prime like Jay Williams could make great money over there, while young good players who aren't quite starters can go make 20 mil over 3 years, oppose to the 3-4 mil they would get here per season
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Post by greatmustachio on Jul 23, 2008 16:42:30 GMT -4
Agreed! However, now that it has been done whats to stop the next kid from getting paid for a year? Get treated like a king, and get endorsments. Hell Damon Jones make 5 mil just on a shoe deal from China. I think if guys see it's not so bad to go overseas for a season, instead of sitting in college these guys will start to go I think just from a future marketing perspective its pretty short sighted. With guys like Andrea Bargnani and Boris Diaw cracking the top ten in NBA jerseys sold in Europe it seems like their support for NBA players is heavily related to national pride. Hired guns don't get that same benefit. The NCAA tournament gives players great exposure in the American market and given that a lot of big name programs recruit internationally I would assume the rest of the world follows the tournament as well. If they don't they are missing out. The average NBA fan isn't going to watch Euroleague games all of a sudden. Maybe Bargnani and Diaw are just good players? I got both, and I'm definetly not Italian or French Luckily I must say ^^
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jul 23, 2008 16:51:11 GMT -4
I think just from a future marketing perspective its pretty short sighted. With guys like Andrea Bargnani and Boris Diaw cracking the top ten in NBA jerseys sold in Europe it seems like their support for NBA players is heavily related to national pride. Hired guns don't get that same benefit. The NCAA tournament gives players great exposure in the American market and given that a lot of big name programs recruit internationally I would assume the rest of the world follows the tournament as well. If they don't they are missing out. The average NBA fan isn't going to watch Euroleague games all of a sudden. Maybe Bargnani and Diaw are just good players? I got both, and I'm definetly not Italian or French Luckily I must say ^^ Bargani 10 pts ppg on .386 shooting is horrible. Diaw is slightly better but still is nothing more than a role player.
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Post by greatmustachio on Jul 23, 2008 16:58:26 GMT -4
It's always good to know that stats do not tell the whole story. Both Diaw and Bargnani are important players for there teams in their way. And Bargnani will become a great 6th man now with Bosh and O'Neal starting. You can't take stats and just say a player with 13 ppg is better than one with 10 ppg like it's a god givin' fact. But I guess thats just how you see things
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jul 23, 2008 17:02:54 GMT -4
It's always good to know that stats do not tell the whole story. Both Diaw and Bargnani are important players for there teams in their way. And Bargnani will become a great 6th man now with Bosh and O'Neal starting. You can't take stats and just say a player with 13 ppg is better than one with 10 ppg like it's a god givin' fact. But I guess thats just how you see things Exactly both of them wont even start next season. If they were born American players neither of them would crack the top 100 of jersey sales in Europe, let alone the top ten.
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Post by BeastModeCowboy on Jul 23, 2008 18:38:35 GMT -4
I think its a great move for players to use Europe as a weapon against the NBA and hopefully the league see that and let these kids play. All the racial rules they are putting out are going to back fire on them...its funny that all the white sports allows kids to become pros, tennis,baseball,hockey,golf and etc...all allows their players to become pros at the ages 15 and 16 but 18 year old basketball players can't.......I know I know its always not about race but how else can you explain how the NBA can keep a player from making a living and outside of a few white guys (Swift) most of the kids are black that declare therefore making it a black thing.....Anyways glad to see there is another way for a brother to get his money........
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jul 23, 2008 19:00:16 GMT -4
I think its a great move for players to use Europe as a weapon against the NBA and hopefully the league see that and let these kids play. All the racial rules they are putting out are going to back fire on them...its funny that all the white sports allows kids to become pros, tennis,baseball,hockey,golf and etc...all allows their players to become pros at the ages 15 and 16 but 18 year old basketball players can't.......I know I know its always not about race but how else can you explain how the NBA can keep a player from making a living and outside of a few white guys (Swift) most of the kids are black that declare therefore making it a black thing.....Anyways glad to see there is another way for a brother to get his money........ You remind me of the homophobic roar about the latest nike ads wkstudio.typepad.com/studio/2008/06/hyperdunk-print.html99% of the target audience see humiliating dunks. Gay acitivists see homophobia. If you look for racism hard enough in anything you will find it. Explain to me the drawback of going to college outside of getting paid one year later. For the stars you get the benefit of showcasing your skills to the world in the tournament. Compare Oden and Durant's endoresment deals to Bynum's when he came into the league. I imagine they were not even close.
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