|
Post by The Trade Launderer on Aug 24, 2017 12:43:47 GMT -4
1. The plan itself was obviously terrible and suicidal and everyone should know that Cersei would not give AF even if they were successful and brought back a white 2. They spent much of the season speaking about the importance of dragonglass, and mining it, yet hardly used it during this ep!? 3. The timeline is absurd, obviously. Gendry *running* back, sending Raven to Dany, all in time for this? 4. Why wouldn't John & Crew continue to hammer the ice to ensure it does not soldiify? 5. Why doesn't the Knight King use javelin to kill Drogon? 6. Why doesn't Dany use dragons to kill the Knight king, first? 7. Benjen did not need to get off the horse?? 8. Why didn't John & crew bring ravens with them? 9. Jon & Tormund's surviving in those particular ways were just unbelievable 10. Arya trains as an assasin for years, and is unbelievable at being a trickster, yet all of a sudden acts like a complete idiot?
I love Thrones. The episode itself was awesome to behold. None of it made any sense though.
|
|
|
Post by Derek Fisher on Aug 24, 2017 13:43:56 GMT -4
1. The plan itself was obviously terrible and suicidal and everyone should know that Cersei would not give AF even if they were successful and brought back a white 2. They spent much of the season speaking about the importance of dragonglass, and mining it, yet hardly used it during this ep!? 3. The timeline is absurd, obviously. Gendry *running* back, sending Raven to Dany, all in time for this? 4. Why wouldn't John & Crew continue to hammer the ice to ensure it does not soldiify? 5. Why doesn't the Knight King use javelin to kill Drogon? 6. Why doesn't Dany use dragons to kill the Knight king, first? 7. Benjen did not need to get off the horse?? 8. Why didn't John & crew bring ravens with them? 9. Jon & Tormund's surviving in those particular ways were just unbelievable 10. Arya trains as an assasin for years, and is unbelievable at being a trickster, yet all of a sudden acts like a complete idiot? I love Thrones. The episode itself was awesome to behold. None of it made any sense though. 1) I mean, I'll give you that. I'm convinced it'll go down much differently in the book at least. D&D obviously rushed it. 2) Dragonglass kills White Walkers, they don't need it to kill wights. Already have Longclaw. It was supposed to be a mere recon mission. They mined dragonglass but hadn't forged it into weapons by the time Gendry arrived. 3) We're assuming they spent days on the frozen lake. Another running theory is that Bran sent the ravens well ahead of time. 4) Got me there lol. 5) Kill Drogon and Viserion would have lit them on fire. He was right there. 6) She flew in to save Jon and the Fellowship in the nick. As far as she knows there's just a bunch of zombies everyone. Once she sees Viserion die, she knows its time to gtfo. 7) Honestly? Budget cuts and not much time to cut another scene. Benjen is a wight and cannot go south of the wall anyways (at least until the Night King brings it down). 8) Pretty sure they'd die out there after a while. Possible noise too? 9) Added drama. I didn't mind it. I did expect at least 3 to die though. I liked how Longclaw opened it's eyes when he reached out of the lake. 10) She's not being an idiot. It seems obvious she's playing a game at this point.
|
|
|
Post by rogworld1991 on Aug 24, 2017 13:55:57 GMT -4
Yeah I think Arya is acting that way purposefully.
Also I listed it above, but no way they escape with two full grown men on that horse, not with the distance they had to travel. Wish it was discussed better but yeah.
|
|
|
Post by The Trade Launderer on Aug 24, 2017 14:09:02 GMT -4
They should have used the dragon glass on the bear
|
|
|
Post by rogworld1991 on Aug 24, 2017 16:00:24 GMT -4
They should have used the dragon glass on the bear Why? He was a wight bear not a white walker. Wights don't shatter on impact of dragon glass.
|
|
|
Post by The Trade Launderer on Aug 24, 2017 16:03:49 GMT -4
Yes they do, in the shows. Check Season 2. John acknowledges as much.
|
|
|
Post by Steve on Aug 27, 2017 23:39:24 GMT -4
Thrones
|
|
|
Post by Derek Fisher on Aug 27, 2017 23:57:02 GMT -4
That was hype!
|
|
|
Post by Mogwai Mode on Aug 28, 2017 6:24:33 GMT -4
Best episode of the season!
Just barely made up for all the plot holes, character inconsistencies, and somewhat weak dialogue this season.
|
|
|
Post by rogworld1991 on Aug 28, 2017 14:08:01 GMT -4
Don't know that I'd call it the best of the season, I think The Spoilers of War was the best, one of the best of the series even.
But this episode was damn good and I think it made up a lot of perceived plot holes and stuff from this season, except from last episode which I'm willing to just say "they were on the rock for 3 days) and call it a day.
I'm so glad they didn't fuck up Arya's character again this season after the disaster with the Waif last year, good to see her and Sansa working together to take down Littlefiinger like most had predicted/hoped.
The last scene was fucking great, God this army legit looks unstoppable.
I'm really worried that they didn't wrap enough up that if they really are going with 6 episode shits going to feel worse than this season. They still have the stuff about Dany/Jon(Aegon) and their love/incest, and the whole "who has the better claim to the throne" to deal with. They still have to deal with Cersei who now has 20,000 mercenaries to go to war with. They've legit done nothing with the Mountain and the Hound despite all the build up and hype. And thats before even getting into the war with the Nights King. Lots of shit still in play, to wrap up in 6 episodes. Surely they aren't going to just give us one giant battle between Jon/Danys forces and the NK right?
|
|
|
Post by Mogwai Mode on Aug 28, 2017 18:22:46 GMT -4
The Spoilers of War had maybe the best battle of any season, maybe any visual medium ever, but I the reason I felt like this was the best episode is because it gave us a lot of the things that make GoT, for my money, the best show/piece of entertainment ever. It had that great scene between Cersi and Tyrion, although it was another terrible idea on Tyrion's part. Characters stayed true to who they were finally, Cersi being Cersi, Jon being too honorable for his own good. You had all of these great payoffs that have built up all the way from Season 1 Episode 1. You finally get confirmation that it was Littlefinger who sent the Cat's Paw assassin, you finally get Littlefinger's comeuppance (although I'm gonna be sad not to see Littlefinger scheming anymore, I wonder how he would have dealt with the White Walkers). R+L=J had been confirmed but now the show's characters know it and we find out Jon's real name, although he'll always be Jon Snow to me. Jaime and Cersi finally split. We got our first incest scene with explicit nudity since season 1? Gotta love dat incest yo. And the fucking ice Viseryon taking down the fucking ice wall with his ice breath. Also this episode seriously felt like the first one they wrote for the whole season and then they worked backwards to write scenes that would lead up to everything that happened in this episode. That would explain all of those dumb scenes in Winterfell and the terrible awful plan in the last episode.
|
|
|
Post by Derek Fisher on Aug 31, 2017 23:56:15 GMT -4
|
|
|
Post by bigrodders27 on Sept 1, 2017 6:22:02 GMT -4
|
|
|
Post by Derek Fisher on Apr 14, 2019 20:35:31 GMT -4
Get ready boys
|
|
|
Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2019 20:47:25 GMT -4
šš
|
|