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Post by Derek Fisher on May 20, 2019 1:51:36 GMT -4
There’s been a million things to indicate Dany could’ve gone mad queen...it’s literally been littered each season. Anybody that finds it to be a stretch or think it’s ridiculous is an absolute idiot. Like DudlyBob said, they could’ve built that aspect up, but such is life when those knucklehead writers say no to adding episodes and try to jam pack everything into 6 episodes. I've seen so many Dany fans say Jon shouldn't have killed her because he was unwilling to kill Ygritte. :l
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Post by Tanking is Allowed!!! on May 20, 2019 9:01:16 GMT -4
Yikes
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Post by Dan on May 20, 2019 11:00:42 GMT -4
Just recorded a podcast on my thoughts on it: In this episode, I break down the FINAL episode of "Game of Thrones", as well as its final season. I also talk about where I think it stands in terms of the best shows of all-time. soundcloud.com/dan-schultz-729086413/episode-82
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Post by Tanking is Allowed!!! on May 20, 2019 12:21:11 GMT -4
Breaking Bad > The Shield > Thrones Will quote this one last time
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Post by Mogwai Mode on May 20, 2019 16:07:37 GMT -4
Almost feel like it's fitting they put Bran on the Iron Throne because I literally felt no emotion in this episode.
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Post by J-Sav on May 20, 2019 17:30:00 GMT -4
Yeah, there's no defending the finale. Damn.
That's what you get when you mail it in at the end. 7 episodes season 7 then a 6 episode final season? Who in the hell thought this was a good idea?
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Post by Dan on May 20, 2019 17:41:13 GMT -4
I actually thought it was fine, and found myself agreeing with a lot of this recap: www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-recaps/game-of-thrones-series-finale-recap-the-iron-throne-835755/Not saying I loved it, but people's overreaction to things this season has been flat-out insane to me. Like people were legit upset that Jon didn't pet Ghost when he left? Just shut up and stop being soft - he made up for it in the closing minutes, right? Not the best season by a long shot but far from terrible. Everyone also needs to stop pinning all the blame on the writers and take out that frustration on Martin for not finishing the books when he had yearsssss to. This final season, from what I've heard/read, was what he told D&D he wanted had he finished the books - the writers did their best to capture what he wanted. Again, not saying it isn't flawed, it definitely is. But I thought last night's finale was fine.
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Post by Tanking is Allowed!!! on May 20, 2019 17:44:48 GMT -4
It’s a pretty bad season. Bottom line. Great overall television shows don’t botch the final season.
But yeah, Martin sucks. How does he not tell the writers to include Bran more knowing he sits on throne at the end? Instead the guy sitting on the throne literally wasn’t in a season and didn’t do remotely anything of note using his powers in the last 2 seasons...like lololol
Arya has a skill that also wasn’t used essentially in the last 2 seasons either after learning it for a few seasons. Lot of idiotic things I can point out
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Post by Mogwai Mode on May 20, 2019 18:18:06 GMT -4
This is perfect.
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Post by Mogwai Mode on May 20, 2019 18:48:54 GMT -4
Not saying I loved it, but people's overreaction to things this season has been flat-out insane to me. Like people were legit upset that Jon didn't pet Ghost when he left? Just shut up and stop being soft - he made up for it in the closing minutes, right? Not the best season by a long shot but far from terrible. Everyone also needs to stop pinning all the blame on the writers and take out that frustration on Martin for not finishing the books when he had yearsssss to. This final season, from what I've heard/read, was what he told D&D he wanted had he finished the books - the writers did their best to capture what he wanted. You can't chastise the fans for their, pretty much universal, hatred/disappointment in Jon not even petting Ghost because we had no idea they'd ever see each other again. It was especially jarring because he just had warm embraces with almost every one of his remaining friends. As far as the writers (more so the showrunners), they can and should be blamed for rushing the show when it clearly needed much more time to naturally progress these character arcs to their intended conclusions. Not to mention the dialogue itself has been all over the place, take for example Jon and Tyrion's 1st chat last night where Jon says he won't defend what Dany has done but then proceeds immediately to defend what she has done.
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Post by sativa417 on May 20, 2019 18:58:26 GMT -4
If only they did the 10 seasons like HBO was willing to do. The rush is what killed it for me. I didn't have a problem with some of the events in theory, but the lead up, or lack thereof, is why it didn't really work for me. Dany was a great character, and her death should have been a big moment, but I was completely indifferent when it happened. I know she showed flashes of psychotic behavior in the past, but nothing to the extent of the king's landing massacre, and how fast the turnaround was. I would have liked to see a full season of her decent into complete madness before she went apeshit. I feel like the night king showdown and king's landing showdown should have each had their own season. Didn't care for Bran becoming completely emotionless either. What did it accomplish other than make the character even less interesting? Also would have liked to see Bronn play a bigger role toward the end. I get he was all for himself, so don't blame him for avoiding the fighting, so can't hate on it, but he was such a great character that it would have been nice to seen him throw down again.
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Post by Derek Fisher on May 20, 2019 19:56:02 GMT -4
The books don't hint at king bran at all. I'm convinced they made this shit up
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Post by Derek Fisher on May 20, 2019 19:57:21 GMT -4
Jon attempting to defend Dany was just pathetic.
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Post by Mogwai Mode on May 20, 2019 21:01:19 GMT -4
The books don't hint at king bran at all. I'm convinced they made this shit up I keep hearing that Bran is far more important/interesting in the books. Is that true? Bran's entire storyline, from all of the trekking with the Reeds to now has been, by far, the most boring thing on the show.
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Post by Mogwai Mode on May 20, 2019 21:08:10 GMT -4
Yeah, there's no defending the finale. Damn. That's what you get when you mail it in at the end. 7 episodes season 7 then a 6 episode final season? Who in the hell thought this was a good idea? Dan and Dave. They said themselves that HBO was happy for this show to go on as long as possible but they wanted to fit this into their vision of a 73 hour movie. ew.com/tv/2019/04/09/game-of-thrones-season-8-showrunners-interview/
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