mancowmilitia
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Post by mancowmilitia on Feb 16, 2007 16:00:51 GMT -4
I have bad news for you Mr Mancowmilitia.......You are doomed for hell. I know that you claim to be a Christian however, I just got done speaking with God and he let me know that St Peter has new criteria on who gets allowed in the Ol' Pearly gates and Karma is now being considered. All your days of treating people like pricks has given you a negative Karma in the upper 70s and you cannot have a Karma lower than negative 15 to make it to heaven. I know this really terrible news for Boston's and Seatle's GM. You all have enough negative Karma to send scores of people to hell. I can see from you response that you are one of the "bad apples" I referenced earlier. May God have mercy on your soul (if it hasn't already been sold).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2007 16:35:30 GMT -4
I have bad news for you Mr Mancowmilitia.......You are doomed for hell. I know that you claim to be a Christian however, I just got done speaking with God and he let me know that St Peter has new criteria on who gets allowed in the Ol' Pearly gates and Karma is now being considered. All your days of treating people like pricks has given you a negative Karma in the upper 70s and you cannot have a Karma lower than negative 15 to make it to heaven. I know this really terrible news for Boston's and Seatle's GM. You all have enough negative Karma to send scores of people to hell. Interesting to know that John and his half-dozen accounts made specifically to exalt/smite people is determining the fate of all of our souls. I guess that means I'm completely fucked - but I've known that for a while.
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Post by DRE on Feb 17, 2007 3:55:08 GMT -4
This shit is another reason I say FUCK THE BIBLE. There is no reason in any way, shape, or form that homosexuals, or any group of people should be persecuted like they are. They're fucking human beings just like everyone else, someone being attracted to the same sex is no concern of anyone else's, and is not even close to something that warrants such hatred. I have zero fucking respect for anyone who has even one ounce of a feeling of hate toward gays, it's ridiculous. How many groups of people in this world are going to have to go through this until we as a people wise the fuck up, and realize that it solves nothing?
-Dre
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Post by "Three Time" on Feb 17, 2007 3:56:54 GMT -4
This shit is another reason I say FUCK THE BIBLE. There is no reason in any way, shape, or form that homosexuals, or any group of people should be persecuted like they are. They're fucking human beings just like everyone else, someone being attracted to the same sex is no concern of anyone else's, and is not even close to something that warrants such hatred. I have zero fucking respect for anyone who has even one ounce of a feeling of hate toward gays, it's ridiculous. How many groups of people in this world are going to have to go through this until we as a people wise the fuck up, and realize that it solves nothing? -Dre what does the Bible have to do with this?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2007 4:55:28 GMT -4
Many people that hate gays do it because of the bible
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Post by Mojo Jojo on Feb 17, 2007 5:21:36 GMT -4
Many people that hate gays do it because of the bible Ok, thats an oversimplication and its one many of my faith are guilty of. What the Bible teaches is not about hating gays at all. Im not looking to get a debate, but this is a big misconception. Those of my faith ARE to hate the sin and love the sinner. But ALSO no sin is greater than any other. The concept is not like a scale of good vs evil. It more like, how many banks do you have to rob to warrant prison. So I am no less a sinner than any homosexual and I am no less a sinner than Adolf Hitler. So when those with my faith specifically single out homosexuals I think it does much more harm than good. That is not to say that I am supporting any particular behavior, its just that there is no sin greater than any other. I would say the main reason we bump heads with that group is because they are more diametrically opposed to us in an aggressive manner. Some of these things I dont really care about. I dont care what a state does or doesnt do. States dont make marriage. Where the biggest real contention lies right now is in the concept that people are born gay. As a sales person I can vouch for the fact that you shouldnt believe what you see on a Yahoo headline. If you look a little deeper you usually find that the study was done by a mostly gay study group or funded by one. There is no case that cannot be made for anything, see Thank You For Smoking. Its a funny movie and it illustrates very well that headlines, popular opinion, and scientific studies really dont mean much if there is ANY political interest behind it. Even the Dairy Council has manipulated studies for its own interests.
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Post by Mojo Jojo on Feb 17, 2007 5:36:41 GMT -4
This shit is another reason I say FUCK THE BIBLE. -Dre WAY TO START OFF YOUR WORLD PEACE INITIATIVE DRE! That ignorant and insensitive statement shouldnt inflame anybody at all. I shouldnt find that to a violation of my rights and beliefs in any way at all. I guess your an anti-christian racist. Spose you would be heading up the squads that feed us to lions or have us broken on the rack if we dont convert to your way of thinking. Bible says we will eventually get rounded up by guys like that. Will you be one of them? Or will you just support their ideas, help to encourage others to actually do the dirty work. Maybe you would like to join some of those guys in Darfur who shoot people like me and rape their families. I mean, that is what your talking about right? If you can't reason with us, I guess the you wouldnt have a choice. Wouldnt it be easier if we all were required to wear a yellow cross on our clothes or maybe if we were all painted blue so we would be easier to pick out. So if you were a manager looking to hire someone and you had two equal applicants and one was a gay guy loves to flaunt his gayness and the other was a Christian guy that wont shut up about it and there was nobody else, can you say you would not hold it against the Christian guy? Are you really just a different kind of bigot? You are my friend and I respect you, but are you aware of the implications of your statement?
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kidtwentytwo
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Feb 17, 2007 10:13:41 GMT -4
The Bible didn't say anything about homosexuality until it was translated from old English to modern English. So to say God hates homosexuals is a cop out because it's something that we put in the Bible ourselves. Every time we've translated the Bible we've lost a little bit of what was originally said and added in some of our own perogatives. That said, I'm not "down" with homosexuality but I'm tolerant of it. Whatever you want to do is fine with me as long as you keep it to yourself. Hell, I don't care if you smoke weed or do coke...but you better not bring that shit in my house.
I think the Bible is a good set of principles to live ones life by, but I believe it's something that we take out of context and get carried away with. If we're suppose to have this kind and loving God, I don't see how he's predetermined a certain group of people he created to go to hell. If you were walking down the street and saw a Muslim preaching to you that if you don't convert to Islam you're going to burn in hell would you? Nope...you'd laugh at him and walk away...so why would a Muslim convert to Christianity or a gay person turn straight just for something "the Bible" said? Something put all this shit here...I believe you can call it God, Allah, Zeus, or the "great eagle in the sky"...as long as you believe in it you're on the right path.
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Post by Jogo on Feb 17, 2007 10:24:31 GMT -4
I couldn't agree more Kid22.
And I like yo call it Great Eagle in the Sky.
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Post by John on Feb 17, 2007 12:41:26 GMT -4
If we're suppose to have this kind and loving God, I don't see how he's predetermined a certain group of people he created to go to hell. absolutely. this kind of thinking i can align with. there is no logical thinking to me that supports bigotry.
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Post by Mojo Jojo on Feb 17, 2007 13:49:27 GMT -4
The Bible didn't say anything about homosexuality until it was translated from old English to modern English. Im sorry, but that was a movie. It has no basis in fact at all. The guy made a lot of money based on easily debunked statements. In fact the goofier he gets the more people seem to want to listen to him. The Old Testament is known to be accurate with Hebrew to every manuscript ever found. We still know how to read Hebrew. The New Testament was written in Greek and there are ten times as many examples of it in preserved text than any other text in history. Only one manuscript was ever found to be different found in a Egypt in a trashcan. All basis for this translation argument is this one manuscript versus a few hundred others. And yes, we still can read Greek too. A very small amount of research on your own part can confirm all this. Its amazing how much money people devote to the Da Vinci code and seem to eat it up with no independent confirmation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2007 13:54:36 GMT -4
Many people that hate gays do it because of the bible Ok, thats an oversimplication and its one many of my faith are guilty of. I didn't say that's what the bible says, I just said that many people - probably the vast majority of people who hate gays, hate them because of the bible.
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DSP2489
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Post by DSP2489 on Feb 17, 2007 13:58:23 GMT -4
im j ust wondering......where in the bible is the controversial "hate gays" verse?
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Post by Mojo Jojo on Feb 17, 2007 14:01:15 GMT -4
If we're suppose to have this kind and loving God, I don't see how he's predetermined a certain group of people he created to go to hell. God is loving but he is also God. What your saying how dare God make rules. If you were God what would you do with that? And that is the condition of man, we are born in a state of rebelion to God. All of this we are discussing is a good example of it. People demand God fit their lives and their beliefs. God sent a way out, himself and he bled and died to give a get-out-of-jail free card to anyone who would accept it. It clears out everything we ever did or ever will do. Unlike every other belief, this is not salvation earned by merit on balance of deeds. This is truly free to either accept or not. As for that predetermined thing, thats only if you believe people are born gay. What next? Guys that cheat on their wives gonna get some cat scans and claim they have a chemical imbalance that makes it alright.
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Post by Mojo Jojo on Feb 17, 2007 14:07:22 GMT -4
Ok, thats an oversimplication and its one many of my faith are guilty of. I didn't say that's what the bible says, I just said that many people - probably the vast majority of people who hate gays, hate them because of the bible. I wouldnt say the vast majority. Ive seen WAY more people make gay jokes and slam gays that have absolutely no faith at all. From high school to the professional world. In fact, they had the most violent overtones too. And it is true that thousands died in the crusades in the name of the Lord, but most were sent there were deceived by corrupt leaders. The supposed sources of their faith, which was forbidden to be published to the public, clearly doesnt advocate any violence.
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