kidtwentytwo
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Feb 17, 2007 14:08:52 GMT -4
I've never seen the DaVinci Code...so I didn't know what "movie" that was. Here's the modern Bible...
Corinthians 6:9: Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
Now lets take a look at the King James Bible, same verse Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
So...how did the word homosexuality get in there when it clearly wasn't in the King James Bible?
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Post by Mojo Jojo on Feb 17, 2007 14:09:40 GMT -4
im j ust wondering......where in the bible is the controversial "hate gays" verse? It doesnt say hate gays. It says the behavior is forbidden, many many references.
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Post by Mojo Jojo on Feb 17, 2007 14:35:55 GMT -4
Actually, I only read the original King James.
Do you know what Effeminate means? Abusers of themselves with mankind?
But, assuming you dont, Romans 1:26 of King James:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
I have to go to work.
I dont have time to look up the Greek, but if your arguing from KJ thats just an exercise anyway.
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Post by John on Feb 17, 2007 14:38:39 GMT -4
Do you know what Effeminate means? Abusers of themselves with mankind? does this count for abusing myself? i love doing that.
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kidtwentytwo
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Post by kidtwentytwo on Feb 17, 2007 15:06:39 GMT -4
Actually, I only read the original King James. Do you know what Effeminate means? Abusers of themselves with mankind? Effeminate means having feminine characteristics. Its not being gay. Abusers of themselves with mankind? What the heck is that? Thats however you want to interpret it. Reading Romans 1:18 through 1:30ish, everything pretty much is bad. It also says that being rude to your parents and the "inventors of evil things" is wrong too...and I don't see hatred for everyone who has done something their parents told them not to do. My first point was that the word homosexual isn't in the King James Bible and that the Bible can be translated and taken out of context in many different ways to accomodate what people want to believe...which in hilarity, seems to have been misinterpreted. I doubt God sat down at a desk and wrote the Bible himself and someone has to be translating the translater. The thought of God picking a small percentage of the world's population to go to heaven just doesn't add up. He particularly likes Baptists from the southern United States... It's all good though...in my eyes your beliefs are equally as good as mine and I respect them because we're all going to end up in the same place. Now all we need is for someone to say George Bush is a genius and this thread will be complete.
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Post by John on Feb 17, 2007 15:12:19 GMT -4
Now all we need is for someone to say George Bush is a genius and this thread will be complete.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2007 15:42:28 GMT -4
Everyone's personal experiences are different, but in my personal experiences people who hate gays usually hate them because of the bible.
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Post by "Three Time" on Feb 17, 2007 16:47:30 GMT -4
Everyone's personal experiences are different, but in my personal experiences people who hate gays usually hate them because of the bible. i can say i have never really heard of that. and im in the Bible belt
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Post by Jogo on Feb 17, 2007 18:31:45 GMT -4
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Post by Mojo Jojo on Feb 17, 2007 21:02:16 GMT -4
Actually, I only read the original King James. Do you know what Effeminate means? Abusers of themselves with mankind? Effeminate means having feminine characteristics. Its not being gay. Abusers of themselves with mankind? What the heck is that? Thats however you want to interpret it. Reading Romans 1:18 through 1:30ish, everything pretty much is bad. It also says that being rude to your parents and the "inventors of evil things" is wrong too...and I don't see hatred for everyone who has done something their parents told them not to do. My first point was that the word homosexual isn't in the King James Bible and that the Bible can be translated and taken out of context in many different ways to accomodate what people want to believe...which in hilarity, seems to have been misinterpreted. I doubt God sat down at a desk and wrote the Bible himself and someone has to be translating the translater. The thought of God picking a small percentage of the world's population to go to heaven just doesn't add up. He particularly likes Baptists from the southern United States... It's all good though...in my eyes your beliefs are equally as good as mine and I respect them because we're all going to end up in the same place. Now all we need is for someone to say George Bush is a genius and this thread will be complete. The point of my comments are not to argue or even convince. Im trying to illuminate our point of view. The term homosexual wont appear anywhere, its a 20th century term. If you dont think "men burn with lust for one another" isnt clearly as sexual reference, then there is no point in reasoning with you. Not to pick a fight, but its pretty clear. Your really not getting the point. Yes, even looking at a woman and desiring her is the same as adultery. And NO, its not a small percentage of the population damned its the ENTIRE population, including ME. Your really not hearing what I am saying, but I am willing to explain it if anyone really seek to understand where we are coming from. Stork - I have seen more bigoted and violent hostility to homosexuals in the jock culture of high school than in any other place. And that crowd was at least agnostic and by and large hellraisers. I have never seen anyone justify actual violence or jokingly call other people fags or picking out nerds and accusing them of being a fag in any church. I understand that may not be your experience, but I have never seen a person of my faith ever advocate violence against gays, ever.
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mancowmilitia
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Post by mancowmilitia on Feb 17, 2007 22:02:50 GMT -4
So to say God hates homosexuals is a cop out because it's something that we put in the Bible ourselves. If we're suppose to have this kind and loving God, I don't see how he's predetermined a certain group of people he created to go to hell. I don't want to get "preachy" (my father was a minster, so I know what it's like), but I want to clear up a few misconceptions: 1. God does not hate homosexuals, or anyone for that matter. Man was created in His image and he loves us all. 2. All of us are destined for Hell as a result of Original Sin passed down to each of us as descendants of Adam. The ONLY WAY to alter that course is admit that you have sinned, believe that God through Jesus Christ paid for your sin, and commit to live your life for Jesus Christ going forward. 3. The Bible (even in its original Hebrew and Greek texts) specifically forbids the act of homosexuality and, as such, it falls into the category of Sin. As there will be no Sin in Heaven, there will be no practicing homosexuals in Heaven.
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