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Post by nferg18 on Jul 30, 2009 22:08:32 GMT -4
i would say he is one of the worst cases of a being purely a product of steroids. He is a fraud!
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Post by Dan on Jul 30, 2009 22:26:17 GMT -4
what is bad about papi is he was so against juicers, after his dominican (most juiced country) buddy Arod got busted he said "suspend them the entire year" well now hes a liar and a cheater. What a piece of shit papi is. What is funny is all you boston sheep are still going to wear a jersey of a cheater and cheer for a cheater. sad. So just because one guy cheats out of the how many number of players that have cheated in the past, that means we can't root for him nor our favorite team anymore? Well, I guess I'd be as bitter and angry as you sound if I were a Pirates fan too....
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Post by Dan on Jul 30, 2009 22:27:20 GMT -4
His career isn't purely off of juicing, that is a stupid statement, yeah Im sure it help him hit more HR's and stuff, but the fact he had Manny in the lineup and other guys, means he had great protection, so you get better pitches to hit, now he isn't really getting the same pitches cause he is suppose to be the main guy. Exactly.
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Post by nferg18 on Jul 30, 2009 22:28:22 GMT -4
not a pirates fan, thats my SLOB team. But not that it matters i like close to D.C. so the Nats are prolly worst
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jul 30, 2009 22:42:42 GMT -4
Best player not on roids in my lifetime
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Post by nferg18 on Jul 30, 2009 22:46:14 GMT -4
thats not a picture of cal ripkin jr?
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Post by Seattle Slough on Jul 30, 2009 23:29:42 GMT -4
Or Ken griffey Jr.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Jul 30, 2009 23:30:46 GMT -4
Griffey is probably one of the main guys, unless he is on the list, but if he did it, he wouldn't have been injured every year in Cincy, so I think Griff has been clean the whole time. Imagine if he was using those years in Cincy, he would be the HR champ right now not bonds.
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Post by kfilament on Jul 30, 2009 23:51:41 GMT -4
thats not a picture of cal ripkin jr? i am gonna have to go with gwyn over ripkin jr, ripkin got an insane amount of love just for playing in a shit ton of games in a row. Was he a great player? Sure, but I think Gwynn is better.
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jul 31, 2009 1:07:31 GMT -4
thats not a picture of cal ripkin jr? i am gonna have to go with gwyn over ripkin jr, ripkin got an insane amount of love just for playing in a shit ton of games in a row. Was he a great player? Sure, but I think Gwynn is better. Yep, its pretty much the most overrated and overhyped major league record of all time.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Jul 31, 2009 2:26:07 GMT -4
wow, I personally think the record is fairly insane. That is a ton of games playing without missing one, how often does that really happen? Not often at all, guys get hurt all the time and don't play through shit, thats why it is a ridiculous record.
One record that didn't get much love was Ichiro breaking the single season hits record, that was held since 1920, but everybody cared about the juicing HR's Bonds was hitting,lol.
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Post by db25 on Jul 31, 2009 10:11:15 GMT -4
Not all performance enhancing drugs are roids.
I would not be suprised if Griffey is on the list though, seriously would anyone on the list suprise anyone here??
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Post by nferg18 on Aug 2, 2009 19:10:41 GMT -4
sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4372389Looks like we can add Becket to the list of cheaters... Lucky they redsox got some lower ranking kid to take the fall. This might be as bad as Rogers Clemens saying all the roids in his house were his Wifes. lol
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Post by nferg18 on Aug 2, 2009 19:16:42 GMT -4
Just sad that the only way the RedSox could break the cruse is to cheat. Almost that entire roster was on the juice for both titles. I say the MLB gets some balls a strips the team and players of their awards. In the olympics if you get caught cheating you loose your medals and in the NCAA many of banners have been taken down. What message are we sending. Cheat, and if you get caught no biggie you get to keep all the money and awards. Marion Jones lost all her gold medals. Take away the cheating sox WS titles and all the awards of the Cheaters, like Arods MVP should be taken back.
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Post by Steve on Aug 2, 2009 21:00:43 GMT -4
Shut up, Ferg. You speak without thinking...everyone (large majority) did it and then what? Your going to strip almost every award/championship...your just hating on the Red Sox and it's sad. I'm not a Red Sox fan at all, but it comes to a point to accept it and realize that almost everybody was on something.
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