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Post by Jogo on Jun 2, 2009 11:45:00 GMT -4
Yeah but it was someone else. If you read Adrian often, you know what I mean.
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jun 2, 2009 12:30:11 GMT -4
Yeah but it was someone else. If you read Adrian often, you know what I mean. What does it matter? If you disagree with the content of the post explain why. It seems like you choose to debate topics by attacking the messenger rather than the message.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2009 12:55:50 GMT -4
No NBA player wants to talk to the media after a big loss. That's the point. None of his teammates wanted to be out there either. I'd be fine with it if all of his teammates did the same thing too.
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Post by Jogo on Jun 2, 2009 14:25:15 GMT -4
What does it matter? If you disagree with the content of the post explain why. It seems like you choose to debate topics by attacking the messenger rather than the message. Why? You really need someone to explain why? LeBron could and probably should have faced the media when he lost the series but anyone who doesn't understand his actions isn't a human being. If he had faced the media he probably would regreat it soon after. He was clearly frustrated and didn't have time to cool off so he'd probably would have blasted his teammates, coach and management (that's probably what guys like Adrian are so pissed it didn't happen), fair or unfair And it would be much worse if any of those things had happen. Then he had to be much more criticized. If he had nothing good to say, he shouldn't say anything at all. That was probably his thinking. And it's not the same thing for his teammates. Everyone will see this as LeBron James failure. Not Mo Williams failure or Big Z failure. I'm sure everyone else was frustrated too but surely not like him. It would be his credit if they had won and it would be his failure if he had lost. We know how it works and they do to. When Kobe had jackshit to help him, he was the one being criticized. Now that he has clearly the best roster in the NBA, he is the one getting praises. It's not a question of being fair or unfair. It's the way it is. And that article not only doesn't intentionally understand that players are human beings but is also intentionally offensive. I'm sure some see what he did as worse than others but to call him: - Loser - Egocentric - Ringless - That he wants everyone to kiss is ass - That he embarrassed himself and the franchise - Arrogant - Drama Queen (with the Free Agency thing) - Petulant kid among other things, while with a little true seems clearly an overreaction for his actions so with other motives behind it. And you don't have to take my word for it. Just read or listen around you from people that are as unbiased as possible within reason to realise Adrian harsh opinion doesn't get much support. Except maybe from you and some others that if the exact same thing was done by Kobe Bryant or their buddy, surely wouldn't be asking for his crucification.
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Post by BeastModeCowboy on Jun 2, 2009 14:37:14 GMT -4
what the duke of cleveland did after the game walking out with giving the Magic love or not talking to the media just show you that he has a lot of punk in him and this was the first time we got to see it....The Pistons did it when Zeek was playing and it was the worst thing on the fucking planet but the NBA GREAT HOPE does it and everyone is cool with it what a bunch of shit....
Now even though the duke did the punkish shit the NBA is now sucking his cock by not fining him if i'm players like R.Wallace, Shaq etc.. who have been fine for not talking to the media should ask the NBA for a fucking refund check most people already think the league is cheating for the duke and now they just come and say he can do what the fuck ever he wants....i bet he could rape davis stern wife and he would fine away to make it right......
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Post by DRE on Jun 2, 2009 14:57:50 GMT -4
Wow you guys are serious? So he didn't go get chummy with Dwight Howard or talk to the media after the game, big fucking deal. None of you have ever been pissed about losing? Get over it.
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Post by J-Sav on Jun 2, 2009 14:59:40 GMT -4
This is such bullshit. STOP HATING ON LEBRON!
I don't understand why the deal is. And that article is disgusting, and it just goes to show that if you have haters, you must be doing something right. That guy that wrote that article, along with Skip Bayless need to stop it. It is disgusting. Lebron is a good kid, and because he didn't want to talk after the game, everyone wants to get on his back. Cut him a little slack. If this is the worst Lebron ever does, I think the Cavs organization, and the NBA are very happy about that. He had the weight of a whole state on his shoulders, with the fustrations of the pass. He thougth this was the year, and they failed miserably. The weight of a whole state came crashing down, and it was tough. It's a learning experience for him, and many NBA stars could only hope to have the class that James has.
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jun 2, 2009 15:18:17 GMT -4
If Lebron was the selfless humble teammate that he professes himself to be he wouldn't have need to hide from the media to avoid putting them on blast. One second he is fawning over his teammates publicly at his MVP conference and the next he is hiding out so he doesn't rip them to shreds? Kobe 05-07 and Wade 07-09 wish they had Lebron's teammates. The same applies for every superstar in the league. Did Wade hide out from the press after he was eliminated? Did Chris Paul? Did Kobe last year? Once again it has nothing to do with Kobe Bryant, but if it had been the public outcry would have been tenfold. Don't fool yourself in thinking otherwise. sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=pollindex&pollId=72378
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Post by J-Sav on Jun 2, 2009 15:33:03 GMT -4
No it wouldn't have. People just finally have a something to put Lebron on blast, and they're running with it. No matter how meaningless that act that he did was.
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Post by BeastModeCowboy on Jun 2, 2009 15:35:16 GMT -4
This isn't about hating on the duke its about how he can take all the awards and claim to be the true lover of the game then pull this bullshit if you love the game then love it when your down...lets be honest if he was pissed about getting their asses kicked then he would not have shown up for any of the game because this series wasn't even close they were one shot away from being swept.......the duke is a bitch and he pulled a bitch ass move
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Post by BeastModeCowboy on Jun 2, 2009 15:37:44 GMT -4
dirt i can tell you never played sports on a team because sportmenship isn't consider nothing....its one of the major things that is taught outside of skills...if that was the case lets just have everyone say fuck it and just act an ass all the time.....
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Post by Jogo on Jun 2, 2009 15:39:36 GMT -4
That's a joke of course. I can honestly say I don't care about Cleveland but I always wondered how they won the East in the regular season. That's a 35 wins team without James. Mo Williams in an all star in Euro League maybe. LeBron probably wished he had Odom on that team. Point is, what if they did? Should they be crucified like they had just raped someone? Of course not. Dude, get one thing. No matter how much you seem to want it to be, hidding from the press after an unexcepted defeat isn't pretty but isn't that serious and is actually pretty understandable.
Of course it would. I could be explained by his darkish history (something that James doesn't have yet) and because people love to beat on Kobe. It wouldn't make it right though. If Kobe loses to the Magic, it will be unexpected and if he hides from the press out of frustration I'll be here to understand his action. People love to make big deals out of things that just aren't that serious, especially when they have other motives behind it.
It's amazing how moralist you Americans are. We see guys that did one thing yesterday and would do it tomorrow, criticize and demand the head of their neighbour for doing it today.
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jun 2, 2009 15:40:55 GMT -4
No it wouldn't have. People just finally have a something to put Lebron on blast, and they're running with it. No matter how meaningless that act that he did was. Why is it meaningless? You keep referring to him as classy and a role model what has he done to deserve to those descriptions? Stay out of handcuffs?
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Jun 2, 2009 15:59:28 GMT -4
Do you really think you are getting more than 35 wins out of a Smush Parker/ Jordan Farmar(rookie) , Sasha Vujacic (rookie), Luke Walton/Brian Cook, Lamar Odom, Chris Mihm/Kwame Brown starting lineup?
I don't see anyone hanging with flesh wounds to their limbs pinned against a cross and starving to death. No one is exempt from criticism.
Nothing in sports is serious. Its just entertainment. People are just doing their jobs and no one wants to read or listen about potential finals matchups for four days straight.
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Post by J-Sav on Jun 2, 2009 16:02:57 GMT -4
No it wouldn't have. People just finally have a something to put Lebron on blast, and they're running with it. No matter how meaningless that act that he did was. Why is it meaningless? You keep referring to him as classy and a role model what has he done to deserve to those descriptions? Stay out of handcuffs? What do you mean? Because he didn't talk to the media, he's the worst person ever. A guy on espn comments said it the best, and maybe you should listen to it, because I couldn't have said it better myself: "So what James snubbed the media! They were hoping to take advantage of the "heat of the moment" and get him to either throw his teammates under the bus or say something he would have regretted the next day. He immediatly gave a very thoughtful interview to the media the very next day. So please drop this story already! As for not shaking Howard's hand, he will congratulate him personally in due time, this was a very emotional series and a devastating loss not to mention the disappointment of his teammates not stepping up when it mattered. He's human, shaking hands right after that kind of loss was probably the last thing on his mind especially when you got an arena full of fans totally disrespecting you as the game ends. James has been exemplary through out his young career in the NBA. He has been overly accessible to the media and fans, he is loved and respected by his teammates and many players throughout the NBA, he gives back to the community, and has no run-ins with the law off the court. James is allowed to be human . . . stop hating and get a life!" So please. You just mad because we all know in due time, Lebron will be considered greater player than Kobe. You give Lebron the Lakers, and it wouldn't be fair to the league.
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