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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2008 18:50:07 GMT -4
I would vote for him too but I can't overlook the fact that he voted for the Patriots Act, the Iraq Resolution, the defense of marriage act, and was a strong supporter of the War on Drugs. He is Ron Paul without the voting record to back it up. It's not very appealing. Yeah, I might not vote for him if he had a shot at winning because of those very things you mentioned. But I'd much rather support a third party that seeks change than a major party that seeks to maintain the status quo. I'm not happy with the status quo, so I won't vote for it. At least Barr wants to lower taxes and cut spending, which is the first step in my opinion.
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Post by Jogo on Sept 12, 2008 19:52:31 GMT -4
Is it the same to win a state by 51-49 or to win 99-1?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2008 20:01:23 GMT -4
Is it the same to win a state by 51-49 or to win 99-1? Yep.
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Post by Jogo on Sept 12, 2008 20:19:26 GMT -4
That explains how it is possible for the president to become president of the US despiste getting less votes in the US than the other candidate. It's strange but I guess that goes way back.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Sept 12, 2008 21:18:00 GMT -4
fucking retarded if you ask me.
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Post by BeastModeCowboy on Sept 12, 2008 21:41:50 GMT -4
we didn't
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Sept 17, 2008 13:36:32 GMT -4
Remember that babbling fool Ron Paul? The loon that our political reporters openly mocked? Congressman Ron Paul U.S. House of Representatives July 16, 2002 Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce the Free Housing Market Enhancement Act. This legislation restores a free market in housing by repealing special privileges for housing-related government sponsored enterprises (GSEs). These entities are the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie), the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie), and the National Home Loan Bank Board (HLBB). According to the Congressional Budget Office, the housing-related GSEs received $13.6 billion worth of indirect federal subsidies in fiscal year 2000 alone. One of the major government privileges granted these GSEs is a line of credit to the United States Treasury. According to some estimates, the line of credit may be worth over $2 billion. This explicit promise by the Treasury to bail out these GSEs in times of economic difficulty helps them attract investors who are willing to settle for lower yields than they would demand in the absence of the subsidy. Thus, the line of credit distorts the allocation of capital. More importantly, the line of credit is a promise on behalf of the government to engage in a massive unconstitutional and immoral income transfer from working Americans to holders of GSE debt. The Free Housing Market Enhancement Act also repeals the explicit grant of legal authority given to the Federal Reserve to purchase the debt of housing-related GSEs. GSEs are the only institutions besides the United States Treasury granted explicit statutory authority to monetize their debt through the Federal Reserve. This provision gives the GSEs a source of liquidity unavailable to their competitors. Ironically, by transferring the risk of a widespread mortgage default, the government increases the likelihood of a painful crash in the housing market. This is because the special privileges of Fannie, Freddie, and HLBB have distorted the housing market by allowing them to attract capital they could not attract under pure market conditions. As a result, capital is diverted from its most productive use into housing. This reduces the efficacy of the entire market and thus reduces the standard of living of all Americans.
However, despite the long-term damage to the economy inflicted by the government’s interference in the housing market, the government’s policies of diverting capital to other uses creates a short-term boom in housing. Like all artificially-created bubbles, the boom in housing prices cannot last forever. When housing prices fall, homeowners will experience difficulty as their equity is wiped out. Furthermore, the holders of the mortgage debt will also have a loss. These losses will be greater than they would have otherwise been had government policy not actively encouraged over-investment in housing.Perhaps the Federal Reserve can stave off the day of reckoning by purchasing GSE debt and pumping liquidity into the housing market, but this cannot hold off the inevitable drop in the housing market forever. In fact, postponing the necessary but painful market corrections will only deepen the inevitable fall. The more people invested in the market, the greater the effects across the economy when the bubble bursts. No less an authority than Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has expressed concern that government subsidies provided to the GSEs make investors underestimate the risk of investing in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Mr. Speaker, it is time for Congress to act to remove taxpayer support from the housing GSEs before the bubble bursts and taxpayers are once again forced to bail out investors misled by foolish government interference in the market. I therefore hope my colleagues will stand up for American taxpayers and investors by cosponsoring the Free Housing Market Enhancement www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2002/cr071602.htm
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Sept 18, 2008 21:51:48 GMT -4
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Post by J-Sav on Sept 19, 2008 13:43:58 GMT -4
I know this might be old news, but if you haven't seen the Sarah Palin impression by Tina Fey, see it. It's one of the best impersonations I ever seen.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Sept 19, 2008 13:55:26 GMT -4
I saw a cartoon in a newspaper that asked Sarah Palin about her foreign policy experience. Her response, "Well I once ate at an international house of pancakes." Cracked me up,lol.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2008 16:16:15 GMT -4
It's funny though, because she has about the same amount of experience as Obama.
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Post by Seattle Slough on Sept 19, 2008 18:45:44 GMT -4
Funny that McCain's whole thing was saying Obama doesn't have any experience, then he goes out and gets this women from alaska who has less,lol.
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Post by Jogo on Sept 29, 2008 20:19:38 GMT -4
Is it just me or did the republicans just fucked up big time? I know the comum tax payer would feel raped thinking his taxes were being thrown away and not being used to help him but the guys "in charge" should know better than to be popular at this point. I'm no expert but it's easy to see this will hurt everyone much more. There were mistakes in the past and some cards of the castle had already fallen but to shake the table doesn't seem very smart if they want to keep the rest together. If people now realise the war was a mistake, in a couple of years this might be a harder one to swallow. It might be even worse than the 1932 crash if nothing is done quickly. But the common tax payer will only realise it when the shit hits the fan which means when they lose their job and the unemployement ratings hit the roof.
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Post by chang on Sept 29, 2008 21:35:49 GMT -4
Is it just me or did the republicans just fucked up big time? I know the comum tax payer would feel raped thinking his taxes were being thrown away and not being used to help him but the guys "in charge" should know better than to be popular at this point. I'm no expert but it's easy to see this will hurt everyone much more. There were mistakes in the past and some cards of the castle had already fallen but to shake the table doesn't seem very smart if they want to keep the rest together. If people now realise the war was a mistake, in a couple of years this might be a harder one to swallow. It might be even worse than the 1932 crash if nothing is done quickly. But the common tax payer will only realise it when the shit hits the fan which means when they lose their job and the unemployement ratings hit the roof. The Republicans were the one pushing for the deal. The Democrats, who want to protect the lower class, are the ones against it. They're also the ones that control the House. Both sides need to stop playing politics. The situation right now is dire. If today's stock market doesn't prove anything, we're in bad times and jockeying for votes because the election is in a month is pure jackassery and is going to screw over a ton of Americans. I don't think people understand how important a bailout is. Sure, it will cost American dollars but to make things simple, would you rather lose your job and have everything you own lose value?
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Post by Kobe Dominates! on Sept 29, 2008 21:49:53 GMT -4
Any idea championed by Bush and his cronies deserves a second look. Lets not pretend that the bailout is no doubt the solution to the problem.
and I love how you try to blame it failing on the Dems when they voted 140-95 to the Reps 65-133
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