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Post by Boyd on Oct 1, 2005 15:05:22 GMT -4
1. Injury prone. Here are some game totals from the past few years for some of Golden States better players. Baron Davis: 46, 67, 50 Mikael Pietrus: 67, 53 Troy Murphy: 70, 28 Adonal Foyle: 44, 58, 44, 55. For Baron, I think his injury last year was more of a not wanting to play for the Hornets, and not being injured as bad as people thought........Vince Carter. Pietrus is young, there is no doubt he has the young body to come back from an injury. Played some good ball when he was in last year. And is a pretty good defender. Murphy, like I said, when healthy he has proven to be valuable to the Warriors. And Foyle blows. Injuries are the story for every team. They can break any team in the league, from top to bottom. If the Warriors stay healthy all year, and the Heat lose Wade, and Shaq for a long time, then the Warriors will have a better record then the Heat. I'm just saying injuries are definitely important, but not only for the Warriors. 2. There's no question the Warriors will be able to score, but defense is another story. Baron Davis, Jason Richardson, Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy - don't exactly scream defense do they? You win with defense, you impress fanboys with offense. You play defense as a team, and with all the athleticism on that roster, they have the looks of what it can take. Will they do it, who knows....but they definitely have the players to do it. 3. Questionable coaching. Mike Montgomery looks like another college coach lost in the NBA game. Warriors should've never fired Eric Musselman, who won Coach of the Year his rookie season. Huge mistake by a questionable GM. I agree with the Musselman point. I think he is a very good young coach, and will one day take the reigns in Memphis. As for Montgomery, when he had all his players in towards the end of the season, he showed his worth. He put a winning team together. Like I said, they were a combined 18-9 their last two months when they played as a full team. 4. They're really not that good. Richardson and Davis are both stars, but asides from that there's just not a huge ammount of proven talent. Sure Pietrus and Dunleavy have their moments, and Diogu could be a player, but there's a big difference between could and will. I don't think you can say "they're really not that good". Baron is one of the best PGs in the game when he is on the court playing. Jason Richardson showed last year that he can take over a game when he wants. How many teams have a great 1 2 punch like that. Then you throw Pietrus, and athletic SF who can defend and has worked on his offense since being draft, along with a healthy Murphy, and they are pretty good. They aren't the best, but I don't think you can say that they just aren't that good anymore. Warriors wont make the playoffs. Every year there's a fanboy team that's hyped to the moon and disappoints big time. Last year it was the Lakers and Cavs. The previous several years was the Clippers. This year it's the Warriors. Who's hyping them up? I didn't even put them in the top 8 for the playoffs.
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Post by Boyd on Oct 1, 2005 15:06:22 GMT -4
I doubt New Jersey gets 3rd seed and the Nets 6th seed but that's just me. Lol...funny thing is, your the only one to catch that.
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Post by Jogo on Oct 1, 2005 15:11:41 GMT -4
J Rich stats took a BIG hit when Baron joined the team.
I'm not so sure about J Rich being able to take over any game. Baron, yes, when he is at his best, his team can beat any team in the league.
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Post by Boyd on Oct 1, 2005 15:28:44 GMT -4
J Rich stats took a BIG hit when Baron joined the team. I'm not so sure about J Rich being able to take over any game. Baron, yes, when he is at his best, his team can beat any team in the league. JRich showed he can play at a top level in the league last year. I may have put that wrong earlier. I'm not saying he is the best SG in the game, I don't think he is even close to Kobe, Tmac, Born, VC, or anyone like that, but he can take over a ball game. And your right about Baron. I hope he can play the whole year, I enjoy watching him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2005 15:52:58 GMT -4
J rich got noticably better with Baron in the lineup - he really thrived having a true point guard to run with.
You can't ignore the fact that the Warriors were playing better than most playoff teams towards the end of last season after they picked up Baron - they even took the eventual champs to a double overtime game, and beat the Suns in that period.
Plus everyone is still young and learning how to play together. Murphy, Dunleavy, Jrich, Pietrus, Biedrins - all have yet to reach their prime and are just going to get better.
They may not make the playoffs in the west - in the east they'd be a lock. This is easily the best team they've fielded since the days of run TMC
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Post by "Three Time" on Oct 1, 2005 15:53:57 GMT -4
I doubt New Jersey gets 3rd seed and the Nets 6th seed but that's just me. sorry bout that
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Post by Jogo on Oct 1, 2005 15:56:38 GMT -4
Stork are you sure you aren't being biased saying that J Rich got better after Baron arrived?
I mean I haven't seen many games and I know stats don't tell the whole story but his stats become way worse. Scoring went down big time among other things. Not saying that wasn't expected but saying he played better seems like you being biased towards your Warriors.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2005 16:05:25 GMT -4
Stork are you sure you aren't being biased saying that J Rich got better after Baron arrived? I mean I haven't seen many games and I know stats don't tell the whole story but his stats become way worse. Scoring went down big time among other things. Not saying that wasn't expected but saying he played better seems like you being biased towards your Warriors. Obviously the scoring will go down some when a team gets someone like Baron, who is a 20+ppg scorer himself, but if you saw the way that they worked together then you would understand. They are both very athletic guards who love to run. While J-rich wasn't THE halfcourt option anymore, he worked great with Baron in the break - and that led to several easy buckets. Plus since Jrich wasn't the only halfcourt scoring option anymore, he didn't have to force up stupid shots - which probably made his PPG go down, but made his overall production go up.
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Post by Hockeywing81 on Oct 1, 2005 16:35:44 GMT -4
With Phil I dont see Lakers missing it in the West
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Post by Boyd on Oct 1, 2005 22:02:17 GMT -4
With Phil I dont see Lakers missing it in the West Why? Just because of Phil?
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Post by Dan on Oct 1, 2005 23:26:24 GMT -4
I don't think my Sixers are gonna miss the playoffs.
Believe it or not, we played much better with Webber (record wise at least). Iggy and Webber's health will be extremely vital to our success. How much Iggy has improved, and how Webber's health is.
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Post by "Three Time" on Oct 1, 2005 23:39:52 GMT -4
I don't think my Sixers are gonna miss the playoffs. Believe it or not, we played much better with Webber (record wise at least). Iggy and Webber's health will be extremely vital to our success. How much Iggy has improved, and how Webber's health is. who said they wouldnt?
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Post by "Three Time" on Oct 2, 2005 0:35:47 GMT -4
yeah baby!!! im ready for the NBA season to start
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Post by neverenoughbball on Oct 2, 2005 0:38:39 GMT -4
Sixers will easily make the play offs.
This season we will find out that Webber magically doesn't suck anymore and that Dalembert can be a pretty good, but not great C.
The Sixers suckiness last year needs to be placed on PIECE OF CRAP coach called:
Jim O'brien
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Post by Dan on Oct 2, 2005 1:01:34 GMT -4
I don't think my Sixers are gonna miss the playoffs. Believe it or not, we played much better with Webber (record wise at least). Iggy and Webber's health will be extremely vital to our success. How much Iggy has improved, and how Webber's health is. who said they wouldnt? Few people who posted predictions.
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