Post by nbthriller80 on Apr 15, 2006 18:51:40 GMT -4
How many rings has Shaq won without Kobe?
Shaq, 5 years without Kobe = 0 titles Shaq, 8 years with Kobe = 3 titles
Shaq was the MVP quarters 1-3, but when it got down to the nitty and the gritty, it was Kobe who was putting the games away for the Lakers. Kobe is clutch, Shaq isn't.
Anyways, not sure what that has to do with MVP talk lol.
My top 5: 1. Dwyane Wade - Mr. Complete, offense, defense, rebounding, passing, clutch, and his team wins.
2. LeBron James - A future 5+ time MVP most likely, but he's not the all-league defender Wade is, isn't as clutch thus far, and his team doesn't nwin quite as much.
3. Kobe Bryant - Greatest scorer since Jordan, might even become a greater scorer than Jordan (yeah, I said it lol), but his selfishness is very questionable and his team is a lower seeded playoff team. How can you be Most Valuable when your team is terrible without you, but only average with you?
4. Steve Nash - Best point guard in the league hands down, but I think we all know his stats are a bit inflated, and thus he's being rewarded for playing in a system where defense comes last. Defense wins championships, Steve Nash doesn't. Sure the Suns are very good, but I feel too much credit is given to Nash and not enough to Marion and D'Antoni.
5. Dirk Nowitzki - I think Dirk's overrated, always have, probably always will. People are too obsessed with his scoring ability, and overlook his defensive liabilies and so-so rebounding. As for his scoring, I'd rather have a true low post scorer like Shaq or Duncan than a great shooting big man like Dirk. And I said it for Nash, and I'll say it for Dirk too: Defense wins championships, Dirk Nowitzki doesn't. Expect Dirk to be in Honolulu for the Finals.
Dash: I fell asleep in the 3rd quarter of both games. Bucks/Hawks was hype though.
Jul 9, 2021 15:09:12 GMT -4
Dash: Bucks are not a good team and are only in because Nets/Hawks got injured. They look several steps behind Phoenix.
Jul 9, 2021 15:10:33 GMT -4
sativa417: I'm not a Chris Paul fan, since I hate his flopping and Grizz played his Clipps in some good playoff series, so he's like the enemy to me, but still a great player, so down for him finally getting a ring. Crazy Suns are where they are now. When James Jones
Jul 9, 2021 21:48:49 GMT -4
sativa417: took over as GM, people were crapping on some of his moves, but he's put together a hell of a team
Jul 9, 2021 21:49:31 GMT -4
kfilament: its interesting how everyone wanted to put an asterisk next to last years champions, but honestly this year seems fluky as hell with injuries, etc., but yeah, hate CP3 as a grizz fan by not mad to see him win one.
Jul 13, 2021 16:29:30 GMT -4
kfilament: Pumped the Bucks gonna do it.
Jul 20, 2021 23:38:17 GMT -4
kfilament: Lol entire bucks team celebrating without Giannis
Jul 20, 2021 23:45:45 GMT -4
Dash: Feel bad for Paul and Booker. Ayton was so ass.
Jul 23, 2021 15:56:29 GMT -4
kfilament: Draft night and for once I am not worried the Grizz are going to fuck themselves on national TV
Jul 29, 2021 17:47:08 GMT -4